Bob Sacamano

Yep. There should still be growing pains with the young guys.

As someone going to the game today, YES!

Yeah the Rays make a lot of great moves, but non-tendering Cron and also DFAing Dickerson (for that matter) were not good ones (though they did work out a trade and moved him). Granted, those were about cutting costs and finding similar/better production for cheap. But back to Abreu, I think the most I'd offer is 1/$8 mill to DH most of the time. He can take it or leave it.

I'm just saying they have options if it becomes an issue where they have too many. Honestly, in the above scenario, you would just have Kopech open in the minors probably.

I'm going to change my guess from doing nothing. If anything, they move Jay and Nova (along with cash) for players to be named later or some struggling but interesting A-ballers or something.

Could always flip Gonzales in the off-season if you end up adding (for example) Cole. Having too many isn't a bad problem.

It's always different for guys in their arb years and non-tendered. You never see those guys sign for more than what their about projected to get if they were tendered a contract and he and the team avoid arbitration by agreeing to a salary.

To be fair, it was a Saturday night and people have other shit to do.

Lol they're not all going to want him...and Abreu is basically begging to stay here.

I mean, they could wait til the offseason too. Would probably get him at a lower rate than signing him now.

A 32-year old with a 4.75 era and 2 months of control? Seems comparable.

Wood has been a guy who can't stay on the mound for a full season. Dude seems to always be hurt. He literally hasn't thrown a pitch this season. Edit: for the first part, I think I mixed him up with someone else. But the second part is true.

I'd be fine taking Greinke on as a salary dump meaning we wouldn't have to give up big pieces of the furure, but Stroman only has a year of control left.

For how much control he has left, last season's success, and how he's been this year, they're probably better off waiting a year.

The Mets are bizarre. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/07/mets-interested-in-marcus-stroman-exploring-noah-syndergaard-to-padres-deal.html Get out of the middle and commit to a rebuild.

Yeah, I'm good with that too. Maybe not Wood, but someone. Even if it's a one or two year, higher salary deal that other teams with low payroll have to do (Rays and Morton as an example). Just add MLB caliber arms so we don't need to continue shuttling guys down from Triple-A to the Majors.

27, left-handed, under control through the 2023 season. Depending on the price, I can get on board with this (as they do need to add MLB caliber starters to the rotation). Still need to add a top of the rotation arm with him though.

Gotcha. Based on our comments in the other thread, we seem be on the same page in terms of current untouchables.

I dont see him being a headliner in a deal for anything great. Maybe next year at this time.

But what are you willing to give up for higher? I'm thinking that Robert (obviously), Madrigal, and Vaughn are the likely untouchables at the moment.

Right they probably have too high of a price on him to the point where it makes sense for them to hold onto him and see if he bounces back.

That would be great. I saw in another thread here someone said they would give him 3/$45 mill.

McCann has been cratering back to earth for over a month now. Over the past month, he's hitting .185 with a .214 OBP.

Maddon has definitely done it with them using Travis Wood and Strop.

Again, not a bad thing for the team if you trade nothing to get him. He walks, you get a draft pick, and hopefully someone in the minors is ready to take over or someone else is available in free agency.