Tony

They lose next week and it’s going to get UGLY around Halas

Absolutely nothing has gotten better in three weeks. And I know there are things working against him, but Caleb looks absolutely awful. I don’t see how this gets better quickly.

There isn’t a single thing he said in that article that isn’t incredibly easy to believe. Based on what we have all seen and heard, it all checks out. And we should all be furious this is how they have run things for this long.

McCann is a good pull, you’re correct

And there are so many different examples over the years of guys moving on and those teams getting a better performance out of the player. Obviously some players (Eloy being a good example) seemingly is who he is and really hasn't done anything with Baltimore, but there are so many cases where it's clear the Sox just don't know what to do with a player. Look at Jake Diekman last year. Sox acquire him in 2022, he put up a 7.04 ERA in 30 innings with the Sox split over two seasons. He goes to the Rays, and puts up a 2.18 ERA in 45 innings. Soxtalk veterans remember the phrase that was used her back in the mid 2000's, "Coop will fix'em" which was sort of a joke, but was a reference to guys like Matt Thornton, a guy who couldn't quite figure it out in Seattle and it seemed to really come together with the Sox. When was the last time the Sox signed someone from another organization and really unlocked something, or brought the best out of the player? Truly no one comes to mind, I'm sure I'm missing someone, but really can't think of anyone off the top of my head. But there is a list too long to type of guys who come here and get worse. Just sad

And even if they do that, and trade some of the pitching for hitting...why should anyone believe they will develop those new players into quality ML players?

I can’t get over Ohtani. He’s so far and away the best player to ever play the sport, and we’re living right in the prime of it

99% of people understand the issue, there are a few dolts that are seemingly argue to argue.

I 100% believe that there are multiple guys that have totally different career trajectories on other teams. I cite Andrew Vaughn often. I really believe he was just wrecked by the White Sox.

The article states "Hahn declined to comment on this story." The article also states "Haber did not respond to interview requests." In most cases, when stating "He declined to comment on this story" that implies he was not a part of the story, but was reached out to. In theory you could walk the line and still use him for background, but that starts to get into murky territory when it comes to journalistic integrity.

The coach/first class discussion isn’t even about “comfort” It’s about the standard across the league. It’s the same for the analytics department, baseball ops, etc. Everything is done worse on the South Side than it is with 95% of the other teams in the league. Thats the point

I’ve posted this before, but worth repeating given the topic at hand. I was told when the Sox interviewed Joe Espada before the 2023 season, he left the interview telling people “It’s 2023 but they operate like it’s 2003. I have no chance here.” He obviously was right.

The bad news: Nothing will change until Jerry dies The really bad news: None of us know when that is, and even when he goes, it's going to take a while to clean everything up. We have another decade of this, at least.

Except on the play Ace posted above, Wright literally never takes his eyes off of 55. It's clear that's his assignment, and his body language says the same thing. It seems like he anticipated 55 cutting in (which never happens) but that was incredibly poor effort/technique/everything. Chris Morgan DOES deserve a very close looking at, especially considering us knowing he was promoted to run game coordinator, somewhat of a strength of the team last year with mostly the same O-Line, and it's been horrific this year...but the play specifically posted really shouldn't relate to coaching, that type of "effort" should NEVER happen, and that falls on the player.

Wild

It's true, but it also doesn't remove all guilt from Getz. Part of the job. He may be unqualified, and I can separate two different things. 1. He shouldn't be in this job and Jerry is the one that deserves heat & 2. Getz is still the one making decisions, and we can be upset with those decisions. We can be mad at both. But I agree with the general principle that I don't blame Getz for accepting the job. That's not on him.

It's also old school gate keeping. He doesn't like Barstool. Eddie didn't do anything to Bernstein, and the station he is employed by decided to bring Eddie in to co-host. He decided to act tough (while Eddie was on a remote btw and not in studio) and put him in an uncomfortable spot, for absolutely no reason other than he's an old cranky asshole. I can be a giant prick to people when I think it's deserved, but there is no way anyone can make a coherent argument that Eddie deserved any of that. Just a shitty thing to do, and quite frankly the heat Bernstein is getting is long overdue

Putting out a statement that includes the word “impressed” in any part of it negates everything else said.

Tarik Skubal is most likely going to win it in the American League, who is tied for the MLB league in wins. He will throw over 180 IP this year, and has struck out 208 batters in 174 innings. Chris Sale is most likely going to win it in the National League, who is tied with Skubal in wins at 16. Sale will also most likely reach 180 IP this year, and has struck out 213 batters in 166 innings. The last time a reliever won the Cy Young was 2003. And before Eric Gagne did it, Dennis Eckersley was the last one to do it since 1992. This took me 4 minutes to write, because I have access to the internet. And if you are reading this response, it means you do too.

I don't think he really has an out, I think ignoring it is the right play. He's not going to apologize (just admit he was being a crank and he should have been more embracing to new blood) and I would think he realizes he isn't going to win this battle, especially since he was the one being the douche, Eddie did zero wrong. He could take the route of attacking Barstool and Portnoy for his "rally the troop" efforts but that just puts more gas on the still burning fire. So you ignore it, wait until there is something else for people to turn their attention to, which is usually in about 45 minutes with our culture, so that's probably what I'd advise as well

There have been 27 complete games thrown in 2024, you incredible dolt.

So..,Dan Bernstein had a day lol

We just need to see progress. We need to see things that show he's improving. Last week was an objectively awful performance by Caleb and the offense. I did not think we would see a sub 100 yard throwing performance from him this season, not with the weapons that he has on his side of the ball. I went and looked at a bunch of QB's to give a little bit of context around Caleb's performance. CJ Stroud had one game last year for 91 yards on 10/23 throwing, against one of the best defenses in the league in the Jets. Bryce Young had one game last year where he threw for 94 yards on 11/18 throwing. Tua had two games his rookie year where he didn't crack 100 yards throwing. Kyler didn't have a sub 100 yard game in his rookie season. Jordan Love didn't. Lamar Jackson didn't. Daniel Jones didn't. Trevor Lawrence didn't. Baker didn't. Joe Burrow didn't. Mac Jones didn't. We'll know it when we see it.

And before the “wait and see” crowd comes in to defend their White Knight, there are multiple issues fans should take issue with regarding this specific quote. 1. It’s detached completely from what the owner told fans right around this time last year. Last season was supposed to be the “worst season Jerry had ever been through” and he didn’t want to “waste a year” and believed the core was good enough to see marked improvement from 2023. It was the main reason Getz was brought in, according to the owner. 2. I did a quick search from other beat reporters and it doesn’t look like much was offered up after this quote, doesn’t look like context was missing. Where is the quote about this not being acceptable, we’re incredibly disappointed about what was put on the field, we vow to do better, etc. None of that. Instead, it’s “Welp, these were the cards we were dealt, sorry about that.”

It never ceases to amaze me how bad they are at PR/Media Relations. Just shocking levels of incompetence, but that checks out with the rest of the organization.