I was listening to Kaplan on ESPN 1000 the other day, and he kept teasing about how he spoke to a longtime scout who told him exactly how dysfunctional the White Sox front office really is.

 

Anybody catch what he had to say? I missed it.

If that longtime scout is part of the organization then it is the pot calling the kettle black.

Didn't catch that. But does anybody believe the front office is functional? They obviously have no clue how to put together a playoff team, let alone a .500 team. Between that and the crappy farm system--this organization is in a very bad spot. As long as triumvirate of stupidity is here- we are hopeless.

what makes them think the front office is dysfunctional? Only because there is a losing record at this time? Whwn they say things like this I would want to see concrete examples

what makes them think the front office is dysfunctional? Only because there is a losing record at this time? Whwn they say things like this I would want to see concrete examples

The better question at this point is why would anyone think the front office isn't dysfunctional?

Edited August 16, 20169 yr by Rowand44

I was listening to Kaplan on ESPN 1000 the other day, and he kept teasing about how he spoke to a longtime scout who told him exactly how dysfunctional the White Sox front office really is.

 

Anybody catch what he had to say? I missed it.

 

Buster Olney basically said the same thing on ESPN after the trade deadline passed. Talked about "chain of command" issues.

 

No surprise, has been going on for years.

 

Mark

 

what makes them think the front office is dysfunctional? Only because there is a losing record at this time? Whwn they say things like this I would want to see concrete examples

 

Losing records in three straight seasons (soon to be four) and six out of the past nine years (soon to be seven out of the past 10). Pretty good evidence right there for all to see.

 

Mark

Difficulty getting on the same side/consensus in order to pull off a midseason trade in a timely manner....Hahn doesn't want to tear apart the team he constructed over the last couple of seasons because it will make him look incompetent, essentially.

Difficulty getting on the same side/consensus in order to pull off a midseason trade in a timely manner....Hahn doesn't want to tear apart the team he constructed over the last couple of seasons because it will make him look incompetent, essentially.

If he truly believes in the talent, then why is a proven losing manager allowed to preside over it?

Difficulty getting on the same side/consensus in order to pull off a midseason trade in a timely manner....Hahn doesn't want to tear apart the team he constructed over the last couple of seasons because it will make him look incompetent, essentially.

 

I really dont think hahn wanted to compete in the first place. If it was up to him they would still probably be rebuilding. We all have to know the wanting to compete sooner then should came from jerry.

Didn't catch that. But does anybody believe the front office is functional? They obviously have no clue how to put together a playoff team, let alone a .500 team. Between that and the crappy farm system--this organization is in a very bad spot. As long as triumvirate of stupidity is here- we are hopeless.

Yes - Given how incoherent their strategy has been the past few years, I do believe it is dysfunctional and I think it has a lot to do with the power dynamic between Hahn and Kenny (among other things).

If he truly believes in the talent, then why is a proven losing manager allowed to preside over it?

 

Because of jerrys loyalty.

No franchise philosophy.

 

No player development.

 

History of bad draft picks.

 

Blah manager who is not respected by his best player

 

The W-L record is functioning precisely the way I'd expect it to.

Yes - Given how incoherent their strategy has been the past few years, I do believe it is dysfunctional and I think it has a lot to do with the power dynamic between Hahn and Kenny (among other things).

 

Be careful, you will get branded a Hahn apologist for stating that KW and Hahn have competing priorities.

Be careful, you will get branded a Hahn apologist for stating that KW and Hahn have competing priorities.

Haha. All I know is everyone has failed. The results speak for themselves. None of us know the dynamic of a struggle and I have no idea, it could be Kenny who is making the better decisions. None of us know...I do know the results have been poor.

whitesoxdave

@barstoolWSD

Kap just said on ESPN Radio that Hahn wanted a complete rebuild before the deadline but was undercut by KW who wanted 0 do do w/ a rebuild

 

12:51pm · 16 Aug 2016 · Twitter for iPhone

Chicago, IL, United States

 

link if anyone wants it

link if anyone wants it

Wonder if he got that information from a phenomenal source?

 

In all seriousness, I don't think that bit of a info would surprise anyone.

Which seemingly is coming straight from JR.

Wonder if he got that information from a phenomenal source?

 

In all seriousness, I don't think that bit of a info would surprise anyone.

Yeah not very surprising one bit, flat out disheartening that this is STILL the case. Can't make up their minds about a direction for the team and get caught with their hands down their pants at the deadline yet again.

If true, I seriously, genuinely hate Jerry Reinsdorf and Kenny Williams.

Which means they're going to go for it next year. But they won't be all in.

Which means they're going to go for it next year. But they won't be all in.

Of course they are.

another hot take, FWIW

whitesoxdave

@barstoolWSD

I try not to be one to start rumors unless there's pretty substantial evidence proving them, but I've heard this too twitter.com/licensetogill/…

 

Ryan Gill @LicenseToGill

@barstoolWSD there's rumblings that Rick Hahn is walking away from this mess after the season because KW is still calling the shots

1:23pm · 16 Aug 2016 · Twitter for iPhone

Chicago, IL, United States

 

link

Edited August 16, 20169 yr by Sleepy Harold

Kenny should just put Rick Hahn out of his misery and take control then.

Edited August 16, 20169 yr by Baron

Poop on Kaplan if you must, but the evidence of discord in the Sox org has been plain to see for a while.