Kyyle23 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 30, 2016 -> 08:42 PM) Are you an expert on this subject, Southsider? I doubt it. Wtf? Have you read a paper in the past 5 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I've read where he had numerous types of drugs in his body when he died. What does that say for MLB drug testing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Oct 31, 2016 -> 07:12 AM) I've read where he had numerous types of drugs in his body when he died. What does that say for MLB drug testing? They only test for PEDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 30, 2016 -> 08:42 PM) Are you an expert on this subject, Southsider? I doubt it. I am not, but there are plenty out there. If you aren't trolling and would like to learn something, this PBS special was a great primer. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/chasing-heroin/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 31, 2016 -> 07:15 AM) They only test for PEDs. Minor leaguers are randomly tested for both PED's and drugs of abuse. MLB'ers are only tested for drugs of abuse based on specific cases of reasonable suspicion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Is it wrong of me not to feel anything for Jose Fernandez. And I'm not saying this because of the news regarding the cocaine, I've felt this way ever since I heard the news about his boating accident. You should know that (drunk or sober) you shouldn't be on a boat in the middle of the night, especially after a night of partying. Its extremely idiotic, especially going as fast as he was said to be going. If it wasn't for him, two other people would still be alive right now. I feel bad for his family, especially his girlfriend and child. I feel bad for his friends that were on the boat with them and their families. And I feel bad for the Marlins, who as I think should totally blow it up and start from scratch. I feel nothing for Jose Fernandez. What a waste of talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 04:20 PM) Cocaine was big in the 80s and early 90s. It seems to be making a comeback. Non crack that is. Cocaine never left, instead of the projects you can find it in high-rises and the suburbs. Not all of my friends who use have smoked pot but they've all done coke (and heroin). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 1, 2016 -> 12:54 PM) Is it wrong of me not to feel anything for Jose Fernandez. And I'm not saying this because of the news regarding the cocaine, I've felt this way ever since I heard the news about his boating accident. You should know that (drunk or sober) you shouldn't be on a boat in the middle of the night, especially after a night of partying. Its extremely idiotic, especially going as fast as he was said to be going. If it wasn't for him, two other people would still be alive right now. I feel bad for his family, especially his girlfriend and child. I feel bad for his friends that were on the boat with them and their families. And I feel bad for the Marlins, who as I think should totally blow it up and start from scratch. I feel nothing for Jose Fernandez. What a waste of talent. Had Oscar Tavares survived his car crash, he's be sitting in jail for killing his girlfriend. (Assuming the DR has some kind of DUI manslaughter laws) Instead, he lost his life in a tragic accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 24 years old with fame and cash in Miami, a lot of us would make some bad decisions. He made more than one that night and he paid a price way too high. Why the cocaine does throw most of us aback, it still shouldn't make this any less of a tragedy. We all do stupid things. I do take issue with the family attorney saying it could have been involuntary. That is ridiculous, but I am sure he is laying the groundwork for defending a lawsuit or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 1, 2016 -> 01:18 PM) 24 years old with fame and cash in Miami, a lot of us would make some bad decisions. He made more than one that night and he paid a price way too high. Why the cocaine does throw most of us aback, it still shouldn't make this any less of a tragedy. We all do stupid things. I do take issue with the family attorney saying it could have been involuntary. That is ridiculous, but I am sure he is laying the groundwork for defending a lawsuit or two. The one part about the bolded that bothers me is - if he's going out boating, intoxicated, with cocaine in his system, and he's doing that with a family left behind, then maybe there's some degree of sympathy for him that vanishes because by those bad decisions he left an unborn kid without a father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 1, 2016 -> 12:11 PM) The one part about the bolded that bothers me is - if he's going out boating, intoxicated, with cocaine in his system, and he's doing that with a family left behind, then maybe there's some degree of sympathy for him that vanishes because by those bad decisions he left an unborn kid without a father. Making that sort of judgment is not even worth the energy it requires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Marlins pitcher Jose Fernandez to blame for fatal boating crash, investigation concludes Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/comm...l#storylink=cpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 09:09 AM) Marlins pitcher Jose Fernandez to blame for fatal boating crash, investigation concludes Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/comm...l#storylink=cpy How sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Sad indeed. Hopefully others will learn from this and not make the same mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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