How is Kopech a dbag for throwing hard?

It's not about him throwing hard -- it's his demeanor and attitude. Some humility will eventually do him good.

It's not about him throwing hard -- it's his demeanor and attitude. Some humility will eventually do him good.

 

Yea some of his vine/insta/etc videos with his plastic girlfriend are awful to me personally. But he is still very young. Kid has some maturing to do obviously as a professional.

It's not that. It's the whole persona that he's putting out there, as a AA pitcher.

 

Kopech needs to mature a bit, he is a risky prospect, but one with big upside

 

His control and secondary stuff need time, but I could see him pushing for a call up in late 2018 if he continues to develop

I dont have a problem at all with Kopech's attitude. He's a pitcher not a politician. Dont you want him to be obsessed with fitness and competition?

I don't know, so long as Kopech attitude doesn't involve publicly throwing teammates/coaches/team under bus constantly I wouldn't mind a bigger personality. Big arrogant long-haired texan throwing 100+? Sure, that's what makes sports fun.

 

That is to say, unless he sucks. If he sucks then its a problem because sucky players should just be sulking about how much they suck.

I dont have a problem at all with Kopech's attitude. He's a pitcher not a politician. Dont you want him to be obsessed with fitness and competition?

 

His attitude wouldn't be a problem if he had a clean record. He was suspended for 50 games for a PED in 2015 and then missed time last year when he broke his hand on the face of a teammate. His off the field attitude is directly impacting his on the field performance as a pitcher.

His attitude wouldn't be a problem if he had a clean record. He was suspended for 50 games for a PED in 2015 and then missed time last year when he broke his hand on the face of a teammate. His off the field attitude is directly impacting his on the field performance as a pitcher.

Seems like the fight wasn't his fault based on all publically available information.

Seems like the fight wasn't his fault based on all publically available information.

 

I heard something similar, but he threw a punch regardless. I'm not trashing the kid between the lines, I love some attitude on the mound during a game. I am just pointing out there is some cause for concern over the off the field stuff and I hope it doesn't hold him back any further than it already has.

This team has been so lifeless and boring I'll gladly welcome a mean spirited mfer on the mound throwing gas and talking smack. Who knows if Kopech even is that kind of guy on the mound though.

His attitude wouldn't be a problem if he had a clean record. He was suspended for 50 games for a PED in 2015 and then missed time last year when he broke his hand on the face of a teammate. His off the field attitude is directly impacting his on the field performance as a pitcher.

 

This. It is the same reason that Chris Sale started to get attention for his attitude.

If we're going to hate on talented, cocky, young kids then this rebuild is really going to be tough.

Edited January 17, 20179 yr by Rowand44

If we're going to hate on talented, cocky, young kids then this rebuild is really going to be tough.

 

Yeah, unfortunately acting like Nick Swisher is now the norm, and not the exception. Millennials.

If things don't work out for Kepech in baseball he could have a great career in the game of Cricket.

If we're going to hate on talented, cocky, young kids then this rebuild is really going to be tough.

This.

 

Not sure why some of you guys are hating on him. I don't care if he thinks he's a badass if the results are there. The sky is the limit for him as far as potential goes.

I don't know if its his attitude so much. Based on the social media I've seen, he kinda comes off as a tool. But then again, anyone 21 or younger seems to in some way. I don't really care as long he can pitch.

Edited January 17, 20179 yr by soxfan2014

If we're going to hate on talented, cocky, young kids then this rebuild is really going to be tough.

 

I wouldn't call it hate. I would call it recognizing something that could hold him back from realizing his potential.

I wouldn't call it hate. I would call it recognizing something that could hold him back from realizing his potential.

Yours is a very reasonable, nuanced position. I hope he can be Jack McDowell 2.0

Seems like the fight wasn't his fault based on all publically available information.

 

Not to excuse or defend him, but I just got a flashback to a time when *another* 100+ flamethrower from Texas retaliated by throwing punches at a player.

Not to excuse or defend him, but I just got a flashback to a time when *another* 100+ flamethrower from Texas retaliated by throwing punches at a player.

 

Luckily Robin isn't our manager anymore.

Yours is a very reasonable, nuanced position. I hope he can be Jack McDowell 2.0

 

Or Chris Sale for that matter. Not saying it can't be done, but is definitely something that can hurt players. I remember a story about Jeff Weaver starting a brawl, and everyone hated him so much that no one wanted to leave the dugout.

"For those of you wishing tommy john upon me right now:

 

I hope you dont get carpel tunnel at your desk job"

 

-- @miachaelkopech5

"For those of you wishing tommy john upon me right now:

 

I hope you dont get carpel tunnel at your desk job"

 

-- @miachaelkopech5

 

Lol that's great. And seriously, why do people wish injury onto players?

FWIW, he deleted the tweet and apologized.

"For those of you wishing tommy john upon me right now:

 

I hope you dont get carpel tunnel at your desk job"

 

-- @miachaelkopech5

See thats good I like that

FWIW, he deleted the tweet and apologized.

 

The politically correct police win again...

 

There was nothing wrong with that tweet. I actually laughed at it.