January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 12:22 AM) CheerforBeer2018 Trade Quintana AND Rodon. Try to trade Frazier and Melky.
January 18, 20179 yr Author Do you like this comparsion to beer? http://www.fueledbysports.com/seth-beer-scouting-report/
January 18, 20179 yr A thread for a kid that won't be drafted for another year and a half? This will end well. Edited January 18, 20179 yr by BlackSox13
January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 06:44 AM) Team is not nearly bad enough to get into the Beer mix as it stands today. It's about a 70 win team. Once Q and Frazier go, you are looking at 65 win territory. I expect other guys to move as season goes along. San Diego will be awful but Sox should be right in that top 5 mix. Seth Beer has 2 seasons still before he can even be drafted. People are going a little overboard. We have the 2017 draft, international period, trade deadline, and offseason before we even get to worry about Seth Beer. It's a bit ridiculous. You're also overrating current roster. This is a bad team that won't be able to score runs.
January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 07:23 AM) Do you like this comparsion to beer? http://www.fueledbysports.com/seth-beer-scouting-report/ When was this written?
January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 07:48 AM) It's about a 70 win team. Once Q and Frazier go, you are looking at 65 win territory. I expect other guys to move as season goes along. San Diego will be awful but Sox should be right in that top 5 mix. Seth Beer has 2 seasons still before he can even be drafted. People are going a little overboard. We have the 2017 draft, international period, trade deadline, and offseason before we even get to worry about Seth Beer. It's a bit ridiculous. You're also overrating current roster. This is a bad team that won't be able to score runs. Sure, if we move Quitana & Frazier we might have a shot at challenging the Padres, but it doesn't seem likely we'll move Todd before the season. I think you're underestimating how bad the Padres will actually be next year.
January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 08:03 AM) Sure, if we move Quitana & Frazier we might have a shot at challenging the Padres, but it doesn't seem likely we'll move Todd before the season. I think you're underestimating how bad the Padres will actually be next year. Sox are a bottom 5 team with Frazier IMO. Quintana is going. If he doesn't, this team traded their 2 best players and will continue to purge.
January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 08:03 AM) Sure, if we move Quitana & Frazier we might have a shot at challenging the Padres, but it doesn't seem likely we'll move Todd before the season. I think you're underestimating how bad the Padres will actually be next year. I agree That Padres rotation is beyond awful. That team is going to get run train on by the MLB. I would go so far as to say our AAA rotation is significantly better than their mlb rotation.
January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 08:26 AM) I agree That Padres rotation is beyond awful. That team is going to get run train on by the MLB. I would go so far as to say our AAA rotation is significantly better than their mlb rotation. Seriously. They are probably looking at a 50-112 record. Over/under I'm putting at 52.5 wins. Edited January 18, 20179 yr by soxfan2014
January 18, 20179 yr I remember the halcyon days of late 2013 when it became clear the White Sox would get the #3 pick and not the #1 pick and how badly they screwed up by costing themselves the chance at the clear #1 pick, Carlos Rodon.
January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 09:08 AM) This only happens because Carlos Rodon was otherworldly as a sophomore and couldn't possibly live up to the expectations place on him. Sox were lucky to pick third that year. Damn lucky Miami was picking 2nd too. It's nice to pick #1 of course, but obviously. a lot can happen obviously. What's cool is the year the Sox should have their highest pick for a long time there (perhaps other than 2014) is such a big prospect in Beer up there. Aren't there multiple guys worthy in the 2018 draft? It's a good year to suck, right?
January 18, 20179 yr Something working in favor of the Sox for Beer is that they play in the AL, whereas all of the other tankers are in the NL.
January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 09:11 AM) Something working on favor of the Sox for Beer I'd that they play in the AL, whereas all of the other tankers are in the NL. Right. In spring training of last year we would have laughed that there was no way the reds/phillies/braves would not be in the top three, and lo and behold the 84 win twins ended up with the #1 pick. It's hard to tell me after watching the last two years and not improving at all that this team without eaton and sale is actually still a 70 win team.
January 18, 20179 yr Fangraphs currently has the White Sox projected at third worst, 1.3 WAR ahead of the Brewers and 2.3 WAR ahead of the Padres. Trading Q and Frazier would easily put us as the worst, though I would probably agree with others that the Padres projection might be too rosy, they're going to be really bad. The hope is that the NL is bad enough that the Padres will pick up a few extra wins, while the AL is tough enough that we'll pick up a few extra losses.
January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 06:44 AM) Team is not nearly bad enough to get into the Beer mix as it stands today. This. At this point I have no idea if we're going to have Q or not, but this team with Q and a likely addition at DH and maybe even an Austin Jackson isn't THAT bad of a baseball team. This fan will be rooting for wins to start the year.
January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 08:31 AM) I remember the halcyon days of late 2013 when it became clear the White Sox would get the #3 pick and not the #1 pick and how badly they screwed up by costing themselves the chance at the clear #1 pick, Carlos Rodon. Not to mention the extra $2.2 million they got to spend to draft and sign some outliers.
January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 06:44 AM) Team is not nearly bad enough to get into the Beer mix as it stands today. Agreed. I think we are outside to top 5 picks as of right now.
January 18, 20179 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 06:44 AM) Team is not nearly bad enough to get into the Beer mix as it stands today. If Hahn gets what he wants for Q, we're getting there.
January 18, 20179 yr Without Q, we are looking at a rotation of: Rodon Shields Gonzalez (maybe he can get flipped mid-season) Holland One of Covey, Beck, or other Starting lineup would be: C Narvaez, Soto 1B Abreu (could be traded but seems unlikely) 2B Lawrie, Moncada second half unless he is doing terrible at AAA 3B Frazier (could be traded mid-season) SS Anderson LF Melky (could be traded mid-season) CF Tilson, Liriano RF Garcia, Liriano DH Davidson? Garcia or probably more likely a late MLB signing (Carter, Lind, Alvarez)
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