thxfrthmmrs Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 When Lebron's career is all said and done, he will probably break every NBA playoffs and Finals records. How did he get there? His team is a lock to make the Finals every year, there hasn't been a legit contender in the East since 2010. The East is seriously weak, two of their top 5 players just got traded to the West. The Celtics are a joke, all the assets in the world and couldn't pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Same report says Boston offered 3 firsts (not Brooklyn or the LA/Kings pick), Crowder and another starter on draft night. That seems way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 09:40 PM) Same report says Boston offered 3 firsts (not Brooklyn or the LA/Kings pick), Crowder and another starter on draft night. That seems way better. Heard something on the radio about Indiana not wanting to make Boston better? Not sure what the hell that's about. Hopefully it's bulls***. Anyway, how many roster spots are on the all-star teams again? Steph, Klay, Draymond, KD, Kawhi, Westbrook, George, Butler, Lillard, CJ, Nurkic, Jokic, Harden, Paul, Blake, Davis, Cousins, Conley, Gobert, Hayward (if he stays), Wiggins, KAT, Booker, Gasol (Marc). I think that's it. I realize some of the aforementioned have never made an all-star team but don't tell me they're not all capable. I think the snubs from this group could take the top guys from the east. You've got LeBron, Kyrie, Wall and Giannis. Which is sick. But after that? Damn. Let's hope Bucks/Sixers really take a step forward next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 What do people think of Thunder / HOU / MIN chances? Thunder now has PG + Westbrook Houston with Chris Paul + Harden and good supporting cast MIN with Butler, KAT, Dieng, Teague, Wiggins (my favorite team now!) Also, the trade for PG seems so odd. Oladipio and Sabonis? I guess it's nice to have Oladipio secured while PG is just telling people he's going to LA after the year. Hm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 So Jrue freaking Holliday gets a 5/126 deal, could possibly going up to $150 with incentives. That only makes Butler's contract for the next two years look like a f***ing bargain. Still couldn't figure out how we didn't get a better deal than we got. I'm wondering if we could have gotten a better deal had we waited till free agency start, after the outrageous contracts are being hand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 1, 2017 -> 09:19 AM) So Jrue freaking Holliday gets a 5/126 deal, could possibly going up to $150 with incentives. That only makes Butler's contract for the next two years look like a f***ing bargain. Still couldn't figure out how we didn't get a better deal than we got. I'm wondering if we could have gotten a better deal had we waited till free agency start, after the outrageous contracts are being hand out. And yet the Pelicans, with a full year of Anthony Freakin' Davis and Demarcus Cousins, still will not make the playoffs. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Jul 1, 2017 -> 01:59 PM) And yet the Pelicans, with a full year of Anthony Freakin' Davis and Demarcus Cousins, still will not make the playoffs. Crazy. They would be a top 4 team in the East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxsoxsoxsox Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 TAJ TO THIBS Taj Gibson headed to Minnesota on two-year, $28 million deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Jul 2, 2017 -> 01:47 PM) TAJ TO THIBS Taj Gibson headed to Minnesota on two-year, $28 million deal I thought Gar said all the players wanted Thibs gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 2, 2017 -> 06:04 PM) I thought Gar said all the players wanted Thibs gone? Somebody lied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Jeff Teague is also an underrated pick up by the T-Wolves. They're gonna be a fun team to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @wojespn 2h2 hours ago Free agent guard Derrick Rose is meeting with Milwaukee Bucks officials today, league sources tell ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 2, 2017 -> 06:04 PM) I thought Gar said all the players wanted Thibs gone? I still contend Thibs overworks his players, but Taj to Thibs makes sense. He's a much less important piece in Minnesota than he was in Chicago. And Derrick going anywhere seems like a bad deal unless he rides the bench. Edited July 3, 2017 by Sox-35th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I'm not sure Minnesota is a top 6 seed out West. Taj isn't really a great fit. They need shooting really bad. THey don't shoot the 3 well enough to be a serious factor out West with the way the game is played now. GSW/SA/Houston/OKC are probably all still better. Wolves in that next group though with a bunch of teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 2, 2017 -> 07:04 PM) I thought Gar said all the players wanted Thibs gone? If I remember the split was Pro-Thibs: Taj (because he's the consummate pro) and Rose Anti-Thibs: Noah, Butler, Pau, Dunleavy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 With Millsap and Teague moving West, that makes it 4 current/former all stars moving West, and 0 coming back East. The East is seriously terrible. The Bulls will have a tough time competing with the tankers next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 3, 2017 -> 03:19 PM) With Millsap and Teague moving West, that makes it 4 current/former all stars moving West, and 0 coming back East. The East is seriously terrible. The Bulls will have a tough time competing with the tankers next year. To be fair, the top 4 east teams from last year are still the top 4 east teams going into next year. The Hawks, Bulls and Pacers were middling playoff teams even before they lost their guys. If the Bucks and especially the Sixers show improvement the conference won't be any worse than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 3, 2017 -> 03:35 PM) To be fair, the top 4 east teams from last year are still the top 4 east teams going into next year. The Hawks, Bulls and Pacers were middling playoff teams even before they lost their guys. If the Bucks and especially the Sixers show improvement the conference won't be any worse than last year. There's a significant drop in talent after the Cavs, Celtics, Raptors, Wizards, and maybe the Bucks. We will see who suits up for the Sixers first. Outside of Celtics, literally no one is trying to get better in the East. And even though they tried, Celtics still have a long way to go from really challenging the Cavs. So you can mark down Lebron in the Finals again in 2018. And the talent disparity for the two conferences is insane. If you list the top 10 players in the league, you have Lebron and maybe Giannis from the East, then who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 3, 2017 -> 03:56 PM) There's a significant drop in talent after the Cavs, Celtics, Raptors, Wizards, and maybe the Bucks. We will see who suits up for the Sixers first. Outside of Celtics, literally no one is trying to get better in the East. And even though they tried, Celtics still have a long way to go from really challenging the Cavs. So you can mark down Lebron in the Finals again in 2018. And the talent disparity for the two conferences is insane. If you list the top 10 players in the league, you have Lebron and maybe Giannis from the East, then who else? Cavs, Celtics, Raptors, Wizards, Bucks, and Heat are all likely playoff teams. I think Charlotte and Philadelphia are too. That leaves the rest. NY, Orlando, and Detroit are all better than the Bulls. Bulls will be battling Brooklyn, Indiana, and Atlanta for the basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 3, 2017 -> 04:26 PM) Cavs, Celtics, Raptors, Wizards, Bucks, and Heat are all likely playoff teams. I think Charlotte and Philadelphia are too. That leaves the rest. NY, Orlando, and Detroit are all better than the Bulls. Bulls will be battling Brooklyn, Indiana, and Atlanta for the basement. Most of those teams aren't much better than the Bulls, so they could luck into a win on any given night. If they're in the West, Bulls would be a lock for the last place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 3, 2017 -> 03:56 PM) There's a significant drop in talent after the Cavs, Celtics, Raptors, Wizards, and maybe the Bucks. We will see who suits up for the Sixers first. Outside of Celtics, literally no one is trying to get better in the East. And even though they tried, Celtics still have a long way to go from really challenging the Cavs. So you can mark down Lebron in the Finals again in 2018. And the talent disparity for the two conferences is insane. If you list the top 10 players in the league, you have Lebron and maybe Giannis from the East, then who else? West >> East No argument there. I just keep hearing that all these east guys going to the west makes it even easier for LeBron. The Pacers/Bulls/Hawks even with George, Teague, Butler and Milsap had no chance of beating Cleveland. We'll see what happens with Hayward. Word is he could make his decision later tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 3, 2017 -> 07:15 PM) West >> East No argument there. I just keep hearing that all these east guys going to the west makes it even easier for LeBron. The Pacers/Bulls/Hawks even with George, Teague, Butler and Milsap had no chance of beating Cleveland. We'll see what happens with Hayward. Word is he could make his decision later tonight. Instead of Celtics signing Hayward and trading for Butler or George, those two went West instead. You're telling me that didn't just make Lebron's path to the Finals easier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 3, 2017 -> 07:48 PM) Instead of Celtics signing Hayward and trading for Butler or George, those two went West instead. You're telling me that didn't just make Lebron's path to the Finals easier? Slightly. Not a lot easier. It's possible a couple of teams in the East are going to be a lot better this year (Philadelphia and Milwaukee come to mind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jul 3, 2017 -> 08:12 PM) Slightly. Not a lot easier. It's possible a couple of teams in the East are going to be a lot better this year (Philadelphia and Milwaukee come to mind). Slightly? Stevens is a great coach. A lineup of Horford/Crowder/George/Hayward/Thomas with Smart dogging off the bench (and if they trade two future firsts and Brown for George they'd have Tatum too) is the biggest competition Lebron had since the 2010 Celtics. I actually like that team to beat the Cavs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 3, 2017 -> 09:31 PM) Slightly? Stevens is a great coach. A lineup of Horford/Crowder/George/Hayward/Thomas with Smart dogging off the bench (and if they trade two future firsts and Brown for George they'd have Tatum too) is the biggest competition Lebron had since the 2010 Celtics. I actually like that team to beat the Cavs. 2011 Bulls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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