knightni Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 04:16 PM) Wait, payne has been released? He left Summer League for personal reasons. There's thought that he won't be needed now that they have Dunn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:18 PM) There's thought that he won't be needed now that they have Dunn. Â Also, because he is f***ing terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I know Cowley said they were talking about it, and he does suck, it's just crazy to think that trade went that bad so fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just here to state f*** the Celtics. That team was/is loaded with players and picks and they can't pull any triggers. Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Dennis Smith is gonna be awesome, isn't he? And the Bulls passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 09:43 AM) Dennis Smith is gonna be awesome, isn't he? And the Bulls passed. He might be, but I don't blame GarPax for this one. He has a reputation for not playing hard. Maybe he will grow up, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 05:42 PM) Just here to state f*** the Celtics. That team was/is loaded with players and picks and they can't pull any triggers. Jesus. Â I findit kinda humorous how teams would be so psyched to get one of the celts picks in a rebuild to build their franchise around but think those same picks are totally useless to the celtics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 10:24 AM) I findit kinda humorous how teams would be so psyched to get one of the celts picks in a rebuild to build their franchise around but think those same picks are totally useless to the celtics. Â They're not useless, but they're not as valuable. Celtics need veterans to round out their roster. They don't need prospects with upside. They're in win-now mode, not win 3 seasons from now. Â I think Ainge is making a mistake not cashing in his assets. You don't have to empty the shelf, but it's head scratching that he wouldn't trade one of those lottery picks for a legit star. If you're a Celtics fan, wouldn't you rather have Jimmy Butler over Tatum? I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:03 PM) They're not useless, but they're not as valuable. Celtics need veterans to round out their roster. They don't need prospects with upside. They're in win-now mode, not win 3 seasons from now. I think Ainge is making a mistake not cashing in his assets. You don't have to empty the shelf, but it's head scratching that he wouldn't trade one of those lottery picks for a legit star. If you're a Celtics fan, wouldn't you rather have Jimmy Butler over Tatum? I would.  I disagree. Celtics by no means are in win now. Thomas and Horford aren't declining soon and they by no means are irreplaceable. They just were a rebuilding team that got better sooner than they expected. I think in Ainge's mind, Celtics' window is whenever they materialize their picks and Lebron starts to decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:21 PM) I disagree. Celtics by no means are in win now. Thomas and Horford aren't declining soon and they by no means are irreplaceable. They just were a rebuilding team that got better sooner than they expected. I think in Ainge's mind, Celtics' window is whenever they materialize their picks and Lebron starts to decline. Â Heyward just signed a 4 year deal and Horford has 3 left. Horford's already 31. Their window is within the next 2 years if those guys and Thomas are their big three. Brown is going into his second year and Tatum will be going into their first. Even if both guys end up being all-star caliber, it's going to be 3-4 seasons before they get there. Â If they aren't in win-now mode, then I'm not sure what Ainge is doing. It makes no sense spending money on Horford, Heyward and presumably Thomas if they are planning to wait another 2-3 seasons to really go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 It's just mind boggling how they would take Horford and Heyward, but keep all the picks/players. They have maybe the most deep team in the league, but with no true star power how the hell are they going to beat Cavs/Warriors. Â It's just annoying to me because I like their roster set up, I love a well balanced roster with great players all over, but how they could not pick out George/Butler or both is beyond me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:34 PM) Heyward just signed a 4 year deal and Horford has 3 left. Horford's already 31. Their window is within the next 2 years if those guys and Thomas are their big three. Brown is going into his second year and Tatum will be going into their first. Even if both guys end up being all-star caliber, it's going to be 3-4 seasons before they get there. Â If they aren't in win-now mode, then I'm not sure what Ainge is doing. It makes no sense spending money on Horford, Heyward and presumably Thomas if they are planning to wait another 2-3 seasons to really go for it. Â I don't disagree that they missed a golden opportunity with PG and Butler. Heck I even posted about it last week. It's just that they have so many young assets and picks stockpiled that they will likely be good for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 02:21 PM) I don't disagree that they missed a golden opportunity with PG and Butler. Heck I even posted about it last week. It's just that they have so many young assets and picks stockpiled that they will likely be good for a long time. Â But it's not baseball, windows are so much shorter in the NBA unless you're the Spurs or have Lebron. You basically have to wait out the current crop of prime superstars that all are willing to take less money to play with their buddies and hope the next crop isn't like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) But it's not baseball, windows are so much shorter in the NBA unless you're the Spurs or have Lebron. You basically have to wait out the current crop of prime superstars that all are willing to take less money to play with their buddies and hope the next crop isn't like that. Â Why does it matter? It's not like anyone would know if and where the free agents will join up next. We're just speculating if a team would be good in the future. What if the Celtics become like the Warriors, growing superstars through draft behind great coaching system, and a superstar actually flees his home team and join up with them. Celtics themselves could be a good landing spot for ring chasers in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 04:27 PM) Why does it matter? It's not like anyone would know if and where the free agents will join up next. We're just speculating if a team would be good in the future. What if the Celtics become like the Warriors, growing superstars through draft behind great coaching system, and a superstar actually flees his home team and join up with them. Celtics themselves could be a good landing spot for ring chasers in a few years. Â Gambling on the odds that you're going to luck into 3 drafted superstars in a 4 year period + have a HoFer sign a below market value contract with you is a ballsy bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 05:16 PM) Gambling on the odds that you're going to luck into 3 drafted superstars in a 4 year period + have a HoFer sign a below market value contract with you is a ballsy bet. Yea but the alternative sucks. Never winning it all. Might as well try to become the eastern warriors and wait it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/-/status/8880339...%7Ctwgr%5Etweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 12:08 PM) https://mobile.twitter.com/-/status/8880339...%7Ctwgr%5Etweet  Steve bought another billboard huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I think it should have been like *Extreme sarcasm voice* Oh yeah, we're seeing red  Would've KILLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 01:21 PM) Steve bought another billboard huh? Â RealGM board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 01:08 PM) RealGM board. Â Reddit board. Â Now listen to the people JR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 12:21 PM) Steve bought another billboard huh? Â LMAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 12:22 PM) Reddit board. Now listen to the people JR! I thought it was real gm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 04:49 PM) I thought it was real gm. Â He started a GoFundMe and posted on Reddit. Â http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/fire-ga...-the-west-loop/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Welp...I truly do think the Bulls made the wrong move. Kyrie wants out of Cleveland...would have been a great piece to put alongside Jimmy. Hopefully they hit the lottery on the draft, etc, otherwise we are going to look at a long run of sucking. Jimmy made it clear on so many occassions how committed he was to Chicago and to bringing other stars to Chicago. It would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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