I'd be shocked if we took on Panda. Of course, I was shocked by getting Elo.

There were a few rumors, but nothing by anyone who knows anything. Some people just made the leap because of the timing.

 

If you believe raBBit, and who knows, anything could have happened since yesterday, but a return that isn't too exciting certainly wouldn't indicate that we were open to taking on Panda.

 

Yeah, if we were taking back Panda then I'd need it to be Dalbec/Chavis, Johnson and Lozada or something along those lines.

 

Sounds like it is Frazier for Panda. Since Panda is coming off DL, there is medicals to clear up.......................................................

Why in the world would the White Sox make that trade?

If you take on all of his contract you better get Devers+. Taking on 45 million, including some going into the Sox prime years, negates the point of acquiring prospects to begin with. Of course a 45 million for Devers+ is a ridiculous premise to begin with. I don't think the Sox should take on any more than 20 million for any one player else there.

I think it would be pretty cool to have a teletubbie for designated hitter.

There were a few rumors, but nothing by anyone who knows anything. Some people just made the leap because of the timing.

 

If you believe raBBit, and who knows, anything could have happened since yesterday, but a return that isn't too exciting certainly wouldn't indicate that we were open to taking on Panda.

SCCWS is from Boston so I wasn't sure if they were reporting/speculating locally. As much as I'd love to take on some of Panda's salary to increase the return, I just don't see it happening.

Yeah, if we were taking back Panda then I'd need it to be Dalbec/Chavis, Johnson and Lozada or something along those lines.

If it was a sizable part of that contract, it would have to be Groome IMO.

SCCWS is from Boston so I wasn't sure if they were reporting/speculating locally. As much as I'd love to take on some of Panda's salary to increase the return, I just don't see it happening.

Ahh, good thinking.

 

I can't imagine wtf is holding this up unless it just got much more complicated for some reason.

Ahh, good thinking.

 

I can't imagine wtf is holding this up unless it just got much more complicated for some reason.

 

Honestly think these deals just take 24-72 hours for completion

Why in the world would the White Sox make that trade?

It would only make sense if he left out the prospect we were getting as a reward for taking on his contract.

Honestly think these deals just take 24-72 hours for completion

Yeah, Hahn & Theo agreed to the Quintana trade on Tuesday and it wasn't reported until Thursday. I think something more official leaks out today.

Definitely prefer Ockimey, Hernandez,and Lozada to Ball and Cosart and I think that would be the consensus.

 

Ball does seem like a classic White Sox reclamation a la Humber.

 

I don't really like the return. Longenhagen has neither of the 3 rated higher than 40 FV. For comparison low top 100 prospects are 50s (projected average regular) whole comp picks are usually like 45s.

 

45 means projected future utility and 40 basically replacement level bench guy.

 

I would have preferred 1 45 prospect over 2 40s and a 35. That return is basically worse than a comp pick. Now of course frazier isn't a big chip anymore and he is a rental but the guys are not really prospects but more organizational depth guys.

 

I would have preferred a comp pick but probably the risk of him taking it would have been to high so that return is better than nothing. But neither of the guys is a real prospect so I would not get too excited.

 

 

Lol the only way I take on Panda is if we get Devers which isn't happening.

We just paid 50 mill to get Robert so yeah, for pandas contract I want Devers.

I'd take on Panda for Groome

Sounds like Frazier is in the lineup for the time being.

Sounds like Frazier is in the lineup for the time being.

 

 

 

#hugwatch....... begins

 

Id have to imagine that:

 

1.IF Hahn is doing the sawx the favor of geting them below the luxury tax (or 2-year luxury tax) by taking on some or all of Panda's contract,

 

2.THEN, any return would have to be significant.

 

I wouldn't actually mind, because this system still needs bats, and Moncada needs time in AAA to work down his K-rate, improve his vs. LHP numbers, & hit better AWAY from the Charlotte bandbox.

 

Panda is a reasonable flip candidate, given his history, but I wouldn't want him on this roster over the longer term. (READ: beyond 2018) Unless Dombrowski & Hahn worked something out in advance, I would doubt that he'd DFA Panda; if he did, Hahn could pick up Panda for the league minimum, & use as a flip project.

 

We'll see...

Edited July 15, 20178 yr by Two-Gun Pete

Panda is far too large to flip. The Boston guy did say last night the deal isn't inevitable.

I'd be shocked if we took anything to do w Panda.

#hugwatch....... begins

 

I hope something gets done before tonight so that the caption I wrote in the 9th inning last night would be true.

 

 

(He struck out.)

Panda is far too large to flip. The Boston guy did say last night the deal isn't inevitable.

At his full contract price, sure.

 

But at he league minimum, he'd be a better flip project for this club.

 

That's why Id have to imagine that the sawx would have to include something tasty for Hahn to take on significant cash.

 

OTOH, even if this were a Frazier-for-B & C prospects, I still wouldn't mind signing Panda for the league minimum as a flip project. (While keeping Moncada in Charlotte for awhile longer.)

Edited July 15, 20178 yr by Two-Gun Pete

Trading flip candidates to acquire more flip candidates....sometimes this gets a little much.

 

Sandoval is unflippable. I'm not sure a crane could flip Sandoval.

 

Yeah idk if you'll end up flipping him. Rather do a deal eith full intention of cutting him. As long as brings good prospects in.

Btw, our starter was changed from Holland to Pelfrey tonight...