Cam Newton?

 

I could barely find any such players that were epic busts, almost all QBs has 2+ years of experience in college.

Akili Smith and Ryan Leaf are two off of the top of my head. And the second comment makes you think, doesn't it?

Cam is average. If he's the best you can come up with it just proves my point.

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Manning still threw 26 TDs that year. Talk to me when Trubisky a) has a multi-TD game and b) completes more than 50% of his passes, when 62% is the minimum acceptable level for modern NFL QBs. My argument is this: If this guy needs so much time, then maybe you shouldn't have wasted the 2nd overall pick on a guy who isn't going to be able to contribute until 2019. IMO, Deshaun Watson has the "it" factor. Trubisky doesn't. Watson has had a 5 TD game in his 3rd NFL start. (And, IIRC, he had a rushing TD in that game too) My complaint is that Trubisky was a blatant severe overdraft due to position. Watson was the only QB who was a 1st round talent and he probably shouldn't have been taken top 20. Trubisky and Mahomes were 2nd or 3rd rounders. They got overdrafted because of a need at a position. I hate drafting QBs who have only started one season since HS, because they almost always are epic busts. As a matter of fact, I challenge anybody to give me the name of a QB since 1990 who started one season since HS, was drafted in the 1st round and wasn't an epic bust.

 

I challenge you to find any quarterback who had real success with a group of wideouts who was this historically bad. There are colleges who have better collections of recievers than the bears do right now. He literally has nothing to throw to. Tom Brady himself would look like trash with this offense.

I challenge you to find any quarterback who had real success with a group of wideouts who was this historically bad. There are colleges who have better collections of recievers than the bears do right now. He literally has nothing to throw to. Tom Brady himself would look like trash with this offense.

Tom Brady won 3 Super Bowls with a bunch of trash receivers. He was so good he could make it work anyway. Don't tell me that the likes of Deion Branch, Jabar Gaffney and Troy Brown were good receivers. They are probably comparable to Kendall Wright in quality.

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Saw the same thing. Wow. Hopefully the guy is OK. No idea it was THAT serious.

 

Reminds me of the stories that came out about Teddy Bridgewater almost losing his leg.

Tom Brady won 3 Super Bowls with a bunch of trash receivers. He was so good he could make it work anyway. Don't tell me that the likes of Deion Branch, Jabar Gaffney and Troy Brown were good receivers. They are probably comparable to Kendall Wright in quality.

 

I think we can all agree that he is not going to be one of the best QB's in the history for professional football.

Cam Newton?

 

I could barely find any such players that were epic busts, almost all QBs has 2+ years of experience in college.

 

Hell Tom Brady didn't start at all in college, and look at him.

Hell Tom Brady didn't start at all in college, and look at him.

 

He started his entire JR and SR years.

Tom Brady didn't even start in the NFL for the first 10 years of his career

 

He went straight from pop warner football to winning SB's

Tom Brady won 3 Super Bowls with a bunch of trash receivers. He was so good he could make it work anyway. Don't tell me that the likes of Deion Branch, Jabar Gaffney and Troy Brown were good receivers. They are probably comparable to Kendall Wright in quality.

 

You have lost your mind.

 

Guys don't get to 500 catches who aren't "good". With their Bears receiving corps, there is a chance almost all of these guys won't be on an NFL roster next year, meanwhile Brady has gotten to throw to multiple guys who will be Hall of Famers.

You have lost your mind.

 

Guys don't get to 500 catches who aren't "good". With their Bears receiving corps, there is a chance almost all of these guys won't be on an NFL roster next year, meanwhile Brady has gotten to throw to multiple guys who will be Hall of Famers.

Yes, they do. Only when they play with HOF QBs.

Yes, they do. Only when they play with HOF QBs.

 

This is exactly why I quit listening to sports talk radio.

Belicheck has ran a brilliant offense for 16 years that schemed shorter shiftier runners open to find the space. It's worked amazing with brady and well with each backup, though he did seem to struggle post-moss with a pretty bad set of receivers. He was never bad though.

Akili Smith and Ryan Leaf are two off of the top of my head. And the second comment makes you think, doesn't it?

Cam is average. If he's the best you can come up with it just proves my point.

 

Both of those guys started 2 seasons in college.

 

And I'd be ecstatic if Trubisky had a pro career as good as Cam Newton's.

Trubisky also left for the draft early so he could have been starting this season, and a lot of guys have had 2 years under their belts.

 

Although not a first round pick, Kurt Warner was a 3rd team QB at Northern Iowa until his senior year. Everyone is different. It's pretty easy to see Trubisky's talent. Whether he will reach his potential is a good question, but one that won't be answered for years, let alone 3 or 4 games.

Patrick Finley‏Verified account @patrickfinley 2m2 minutes ago Bears say Zach Miller had successful surgery to repair a torn artery in his knee last night. That is good news.

 

 

1. Chris Mortensen‏Verified account @mortreport 26m26 minutes ago The vascular surgeons at University Medical Center in NO where Miller had operation are considered "among best in world," source says

    

   Bears TE Zach Miller now undergoing an MRI post-emergency vascular surgery to evaluate blood flow and anatomy of injured leg, per sources

David J. Chao, MD‏Verified account @ProFootballDoc 36m36 minutes ago David J. Chao, MD Retweeted Chris Mortensen

 

The fact that #ZachMiller is now having a MRI is a great sign. If leg still in danger, would not be worried about the ligaments.

 

 

Such a relief. Best wishes to Miller on a recovery. So glad he pulled through in tact.

Freeman suspended 10 games for PEDs. I must say Hampton nailed that one. He said anyone tears a pec, they are using steroids.

Freeman suspended 10 games for PEDs. I must say Hampton nailed that one. He said anyone tears a pec, they are using steroids.

 

I've been saying that pec one for years, as it reminded me of wrestling injuries to juiced up guys.

NBC Sports Chicago‏Verified account @NBCSChicago 2h2 hours ago Bears linebacker Jerrell Freeman got suspended - again - and admits his career may be over: http://bit.ly/2gMrqIC

 

 

JJ Stankevitz‏Verified account @JJStankevitz 2h2 hours ago The Bears can cut Freeman for $500,000 and save $3.5 million if they so choose after the season. Worth noting with Jones/Kwit playing well.

 

 

Freeman suspended 10 games for PEDs. I must say Hampton nailed that one. He said anyone tears a pec, they are using steroids.

See ya launch this guy

Freeman saying it was more to do with his recent concussion and him admittedly lying to people how serious it was. Scary stuff hope the guy can live a normal life.

Per Schefter, 49ers trade 2nd round pick for Jimmy Garrapolo.