January 18, 20197 yr Brantley Reddick and Springer...Marisnick and Fisher backing up. Astros would need to trade Reddick or Kyle Tucker for this to make any sense. Tucker has about as much premium value as anyone.
January 18, 20197 yr Kemp, White or AJ Reed fighting for final roster spot with A.Diaz and backup outfielder/s, catcher.
January 19, 20197 yr Does anyone still think that the White Sox remotely even have a chance with Harper at this point? You can make a great arguement for why he should, but I just don’t see anyway we land him. I would say our odds are around 10%. Have to think that we would have to considerably beat the Phillies offer, which I am assuming will be around 10-year, $350 million. Would think that we’d have to be at 10-year, $400 million, and I don’t see that happening if we’re right around $200 million for Manny Machado. However, I keep seeing them sox as one of the finalists. That has to be smoke from Boras trying to drive up offers.
January 19, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: Does anyone still think that the White Sox remotely even have a chance with Harper at this point? You can make a great arguement for why he should, but I just don’t see anyway we land him. I would say our odds are around 10%. Have to think that we would have to considerably beat the Phillies offer, which I am assuming will be around 10-year, $350 million. Would think that we’d have to be at 10-year, $400 million, and I don’t see that happening if we’re right around $200 million for Manny Machado. However, I keep seeing them sox as one of the finalists. That has to be smoke from Boras trying to drive up offers. Is 350 million the going rate for a good but far from great player? Throw out his best and worse season and he averages 3.9 WAR.
January 19, 20197 yr 2 hours ago, Justinsettle said: Is 350 million the going rate for a good but far from great player? Throw out his best and worse season and he averages 3.9 WAR. If he rejected a 10-year, $300 million deal with Washington, I would guess his offer will be around $325 million to $350 million.
January 19, 20197 yr 7 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: If he rejected a 10-year, $300 million deal with Washington, I would guess his offer will be around $325 million to $350 million. That deal (allegedly) had no opt-outs, so it wasn't a real offer
January 19, 20197 yr 8 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: If he rejected a 10-year, $300 million deal with Washington, I would guess his offer will be around $325 million to $350 million. If you follow the $9-10 million value per fWAR, it’s going to be roughly a $35 to $40 million per year AAV.
January 19, 20197 yr The nats offer was before corbin and after reading more on nats my guess is they are well under 300 now.
January 19, 20197 yr 13 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: The nats offer was before corbin and after reading more on nats my guess is they are well under 300 now. The Nats aren’t legit threats for Harper. Edited January 19, 20197 yr by Chicago White Sox
January 19, 20197 yr 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: The Nats aren’t legit threats for Harper. Yep. And that’s why there’s not many ways this could play out where we don’t end up with one of the two whales.
January 19, 20197 yr 8 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Yep. And that’s why there’s not many ways this could play out where we don’t end up with one of the two whales. Agreed. Right now we’re looking good, but don’t want anyone jumping into the mix with exactly two whales for two teams.
January 20, 20197 yr 7 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: The Nats aren’t legit threats for Harper The real trick with the Nationals remains 2020. Right now, if they pick up the available options for guys like Eaton, Zimmerman, Gomes, etc - they would have over $200 million committed next year, and with how the tax numbers work out their luxury tax number would be well over $210 without adding anyone. Their tax number this year is already over $200 million, and they were a taxpaying team last year. If they were to sign Harper, they would wind up in the 3 year offender penallties. They'd be absolutely guaranteed of being $20 million over the tax this year and subject to a 42.5% penalty this year as multi-year repeat offenders, and if I'm reading this right next year they could be subject to a 62.5% penalty.
January 20, 20197 yr 22 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: The real trick with the Nationals remains 2020. Right now, if they pick up the available options for guys like Eaton, Zimmerman, Gomes, etc - they would have over $200 million committed next year, and with how the tax numbers work out their luxury tax number would be well over $210 without adding anyone. Their tax number this year is already over $200 million, and they were a taxpaying team last year. If they were to sign Harper, they would wind up in the 3 year offender penallties. They'd be absolutely guaranteed of being $20 million over the tax this year and subject to a 42.5% penalty this year as multi-year repeat offenders, and if I'm reading this right next year they could be subject to a 62.5% penalty. Don't the 3rd year offenders also lose draft picks or is that the next year?
January 20, 20197 yr 10 hours ago, smellysox said: Don't the 3rd year offenders also lose draft picks or is that the next year? I believe that only happens if they're $40 million over. Harper alone would get the Nats close to that, but probably not hit it.
January 23, 20197 yr 7 minutes ago, Orlando said: Not sure who he is but what the heck, blue checkmark!! "That have been out there" sounds like he is just referring to public reports.
January 24, 20197 yr Let's bring this thread back to life. With the Dodgers signing Pollack, they're most likely out of the Harper race. So that leaves the Sox, Phillies, and Nationals? Maybe a mystery team or two.
January 24, 20197 yr What do we think the Harper holdup is? If the Phillies made an offer, I would think it was a pretty big one. And we know the Nationals are around $300 million, as well.
January 24, 20197 yr 7 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: What do we think the Harper holdup is? If the Phillies made an offer, I would think it was a pretty big one. And we know the Nationals are around $300 million, as well. Machado is the hold up. He won't sign until Machado is wrapped up.
January 25, 20197 yr 3 hours ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: What do we think the Harper holdup is? If the Phillies made an offer, I would think it was a pretty big one. And we know the Nationals are around $300 million, as well. No, the nationals are no longer there. They are out and their old offer is off the table after they've made numerous moves since. Phillies are the only market with an off chance that the White Sox are in hard.
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