49 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said:

So a little #StayWoke theory on my part, maybe some of you guys have felt the same. Does anyone find it kind of odd we haven't heard any new Harper rumors these past few days? It's almost like his chase was over and no one is really linking him close to a deal with any teams. So of course you would assume he's definitely waiting for Manny to sign to try to 1 up his contract. Well what if Harper has already agreed verbally to go to the Sox as part of a double signing, hinging on the Sox being able to convince Manny to sign with them as well and Sox do end up get Harpchado. Then this weekend when Manny decides, if he takes the White Sox offer they announce both signings either this weekend or right after Christmas. Food for thought my fellow Soxtalkers....

Harper is waiting on the cubs that why no rumors.

Anyone else feel like this has a legit chance of happening?  If I were a betting man, I could see the odds being like 25% that we land both at this point.

I think if the Sox sign one first the Phillies will go insane to sign the second.  That NL is a bear.

 

 

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Anyone else feel like this has a legit chance of happening?  If I were a betting man, I could see the odds being like 25% that we land both at this point.

Yes... It is a realistic possibility.

3 minutes ago, yesterday333 said:

Yes... It is a realistic possibility.

Possible? Sure. Likely? I doubt it. 

2 minutes ago, steveno89 said:

Possible? Sure. Likely? I doubt it. 

I would say the 25% isn't unrealistic, would you?

Edited December 18, 20187 yr by yesterday333

1 minute ago, yesterday333 said:

I would say the 25% isn't too low, would you?

Hard to peg right now? I wouldn't say the chance is as high as 25% of signing both though. That is a ton of payroll space for two players. 

4 minutes ago, yesterday333 said:

I would say the 25% isn't unrealistic, would you?

That seems high to me.  I think it's at least possible that it happens but it's not likely imo and 25 percent is just too much.

Edited December 18, 20187 yr by Rowand44

What would your lineup look like if we landed Machado and Harper? For the sake of consistency, let's assume these are the 9 starters:

Castillo, Abreu, Alonso, Moncada, Anderson, Machado, Eloy, Engel, Harper

That would put us at a 50/50 shot for both (.5 * .5 =.25). I think 5-10% is more realistic. 50% for machado .... 15% chance for harper ... plus payroll constraints... JR history... us being the Sox... I'll say 6%.

I guess the way I see it, the phils are focused on MM and it appears we have the in on him right now, and I just don't see Harper taking a big pay cut to play for LAD.

18 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Anyone else feel like this has a legit chance of happening?  If I were a betting man, I could see the odds being like 25% that we land both at this point.

I’d put it at .001 % chance 

Sox only competition for Harper has to be the Dodgers and a very  very longshot Cubs. If Harper is really willing to take less money there was no way he was coming here to begin with but if he wants to get paid Sox and Phillies are his options and he's already met with the Sox. If the Sox sign Machado, I think it makes it even easier for him to take the money and sign with the Sox as well. JR gonna put 2 superstars on this new TV deal.

6 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

What would your lineup look like if we landed Machado and Harper? For the sake of consistency, let's assume these are the 9 starters:

Castillo, Abreu, Alonso, Moncada, Anderson, Machado, Eloy, Engel, Harper

Moncada 2B

Machado 3B

Harper RF

Abreu 1B/DH

Alonso DH/1B

Eloy LF

Castillo C

Anderson SS

Engel CF

Bench: McCann C, Yolmer IF, Garcia IF/OF, Palka 1B/OF

 

Maybe switch Anderson and Moncada depending on if Moncada is struggling.

 

Edited December 18, 20187 yr by soxfan2014

2 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

Moncada 2B

Machado 3B

Harper RF

Abreu 1B/DH

Alonso DH/1B

Eloy LF

Castillo C

Anderson SS

Engel CF

Bench: McCann C, Yolmer IF, Garcia IF/OF, Palka 1B/OF

 

Maybe switch Anderson and Moncada depending on if Moncada is struggling.

 

If Leury is healthy he should be the starting CF.

That lineup. ?

11 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

Moncada 2B

Machado 3B

Harper RF

Abreu 1B/DH

Alonso DH/1B

Eloy LF

Castillo C

Anderson SS

Engel CF

Bench: McCann C, Yolmer IF, Garcia IF/OF, Palka 1B/OF

 

Maybe switch Anderson and Moncada depending on if Moncada is struggling.

 

Based on Steamer projections, this everyday lineup would be as productive as the Cubs’ lineup (better offense, worse defense). The pitching on the other hand will likely still be an adventure unless the young guys can turn a corner (Giolito, 5th starter, bullpen) and stay healthy (Rodon). Either way, it would give them a legitimate chance to compete with the Indians in 2019 if they get significant contributions from the young players (with guys like Cease and Dunning possibly contributing in the second half as well).

My unrealistic feeling is that if the Sox sign Machado, it increases odds of Harper

20 hours ago, TheTruth05 said:

So a little #StayWoke theory on my part, maybe some of you guys have felt the same. Does anyone find it kind of odd we haven't heard any new Harper rumors these past few days? It's almost like his chase was over and no one is really linking him close to a deal with any teams. So of course you would assume he's definitely waiting for Manny to sign to try to 1 up his contract. Well what if Harper has already agreed verbally to go to the Sox as part of a double signing, hinging on the Sox being able to convince Manny to sign with them as well and Sox do end up get Harpchado. Then this weekend when Manny decides, if he takes the White Sox offer they announce both signings either this weekend or right after Christmas. Food for thought my fellow Soxtalkers....

Eh. More likely the same few teams are interested in both and each took their week to meet those teams. Harper was in Vegas and Machado is this week. Teams have to be given the chance to prepare presentations for each. I wouldn't read much into it.

I do read A LOT into the Phillies not meeting Harper. On what planet is that a good choice? I've never heard a player say they enjoyed free agency. They waited for it, and then when they actually had to meet the teams and make the choice it kinda sucks. I'm not sure anyone would want to needlessly drag it out for another month.

16 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said:

If Leury is healthy he should be the starting CF.

I think that they would want the very best defensive centerfielder possible, with Eloy and Harper at the corners. There would be plenty of offense and the production from CF would be rendered unimportant.

2 minutes ago, Quinarvy said:

My unrealistic feeling is that if the Sox sign Machado, it increases odds of Harper

I have the same feeling, but also feel that if we miss on Machado we also miss on Harper as well....

13 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Based on Steamer projections, this everyday lineup would be as productive as the Cubs’ lineup (better offense, worse defense). The pitching on the other hand will likely still be an adventure unless the young guys can turn a corner (Giolito, 5th starter, bullpen) and stay healthy (Rodon). Either way, it would give them a legitimate chance to compete with the Indians in 2019 if they get significant contributions from the young players (with guys like Cease and Dunning possibly contributing in the second half as well).

I think if they were to somehow nab them both, then they are going all in on a starter immediately.  Kikuchi, Greinke, etc.   no point in stopping right then 

33 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

Moncada 2B

Machado 3B

Harper RF

Abreu 1B/DH

Alonso DH/1B

Eloy LF

Castillo C

Anderson SS

Engel CF

Bench: McCann C, Yolmer IF, Garcia IF/OF, Palka 1B/OF

 

Maybe switch Anderson and Moncada depending on if Moncada is struggling.

 

Not to poke holes in this lineup because it looks great. I'd counter that if we do spend $70mm on those two guys we better go out and also get ourselves a decent 1-2 year gap in CF. Doesn't have to be Pollock, but I'd want to get someone who can bring a bat too. Engels glove is superior as we know, but I'd rather have someone on base for Macahdo to bring in.

Also I'd really hope we'd then go out and get a few more arms too... I like Shoemaker and Erasmo Ramirez for cheap.

37 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

Moncada 2B

Machado 3B

Harper RF

Abreu 1B/DH

Alonso DH/1B

Eloy LF

Castillo C

Anderson SS

Engel CF

Bench: McCann C, Yolmer IF, Garcia IF/OF, Palka 1B/OF

 

Maybe switch Anderson and Moncada depending on if Moncada is struggling.

 

Looks good. We just have no leadoff hitter whatsoever even if we signed both guys.. Maybe try to take Dee Gordon from the Mariners and plug him in CF. I honestly don't know how he did there last year when the mariners moved him out there.

2 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said:

Not to poke holes in this lineup because it looks great. I'd counter that if we do spend $70mm on those two guys we better go out and also get ourselves a decent 1-2 year gap in CF. Doesn't have to be Pollock, but I'd want to get someone who can bring a bat too. Engels glove is superior as we know, but I'd rather have someone on base for Macahdo to bring in.

Also I'd really hope we'd then go out and get a few more arms too... I like Shoemaker and Erasmo Ramirez for cheap.

Could even flip Anderson and Engel so Anderson hits in front of Moncada and Machado.