9 minutes ago, LittleHurt05 said:

The more JR gets involved, the less likely it is Machado or Harper signs with the Sox.  I don't think there's any arguing that.

Because you know him so well ?

"When you assume it makes an ass out of u and me. "

 

-- Applied to every single post ever about what's really going on in both Machado and Harper negotiations.

 

my guess is that a contract value of $250 million would not make the top ten list of values Reinsdorf has negotiated in his professional life.

6 minutes ago, Superstar Lamar said:

my guess is that a contract value of $250 million would not make the top ten list of values Reinsdorf has negotiated in his professional life.

Then he should negotiate 2 of them. That's got to be extra exciting. 

Isn't the "negotiate with the owner" one of Boras' usual closing strategies? And didn't someone say Machado's agent used to work with Boras? 

11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

In the meantime, let's all watch video of YoYo working out.

 

At the end they should have him on top of a snowy mountain yelling "DRAGO!"

I think the Sox have shown their hand -- they want Manny.

I think the Phillies could go either way and, if push comes to shove, would be content pivoting to Harper.  At least more so than the Sox.

For that reason, I'm optimistic.  I think the Phillies will back down first in the Manny bidding.

This whole thing is going nowhere fast

 

5 minutes ago, bschmaranz said:

At the end they should have him on top of a snowy mountain yelling "DRAGO!"

Or better yet, “MACHADO!”

19 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

In the meantime, let's all watch video of YoYo working out.

 

Sorry, stopped watching when I saw squats on a smith machine.

2018 makes sense now.......

 

Edited January 15, 20197 yr by Perfect Vision

35 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said:

JR told Scottie Pippen he was going to regret the contract he was about to sign when he signed it and boy did Scottie ever.....

It had some justification though. Pippen had the back issue and got his money up front in case he couldn't play anymore. Pippen was able to play and at the back end of the contract was grossly underpaid. He made his money early.

28 minutes ago, Soxbadger said:

Maybe Im reading this incorrectly, but are you saying that if JR gets involved the Sox arent getting one?

Because Id say the opposite, the only way the Sox sign Machado or Harper is if JR is involved. 

I know that JR will be involved at some level, he has to be.  I just think that it is a situation where the sports team has to take priority over the bottom line/negotiating and he's never ever been that type of owner.

I feel as if the White Sox NEED to sign one of these two players, even if you give up more than usual at the bargaining table.  I question how much JR is willing to give up, he's not about that life.

29 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

In the meantime, let's all watch video of YoYo working out.

 

 

I would rather watch the video of him working with Omar Vizquel on catching baseballs and footwork.  

8 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said:

Sorry, stopped watching when I saw squats on a smith machine.

2018 makes sense now.......

 

But why?  Smith machine is a tool in the gym like any other with specific applications to training...what would be meathead and stupid is lifting too heavy on the Olympic rack and throwing his back out.

It looks like Yoan did a major cut imo.  Good.  He had a RB's body last year.  Don't think it helped him much.

37 minutes ago, LittleHurt05 said:

The more JR gets involved, the less likely it is Machado or Harper signs with the Sox.  I don't think there's any arguing that.

Why?

1 minute ago, LittleHurt05 said:

I know that JR will be involved at some level, he has to be.  I just think that it is a situation where the sports team has to take priority over the bottom line/negotiating and he's never ever been that type of owner.

I feel as if the White Sox NEED to sign one of these two players, even if you give up more than usual at the bargaining table.  I question how much JR is willing to give up, he's not about that life.

Strongly disagree with this. The "sports team" is a business that has to be run properly. Him doing everything he can to sign one or two of these big fish, while negotiating the best contract possible for the team isn't a lack of "putting the sports team first".

The Sox know they NEED to land one of these guys. They are "willing to give up more than usual at the bargaining table" to do that. In fact, where Machado is concerned, the Sox are likely willing to give MORE than 29 other teams in baseball. Which is why they will likely land him. 

1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said:

 

How worried should we be about this?

 

Never mind. I looked it up on my phone and he clarifies in the replies that the decision will be made this week. I thought that he was saying Machado to the Phillies would be done this week. 

Edited January 15, 20197 yr by oneofthemikes

Man today has sucked even more than yesterday..hopefully something happens tomorrow

1 minute ago, oneofthemikes said:

How worried should we be about this?

I'm not too worried. Obviously anything can happen, but I wouldn't get too worked up about it either way.

I'm stunned that Bob/Heyman/Passan/etc haven't floated something for us all to overreact about yet today.

Edited January 15, 20197 yr by mqr

5 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said:

 

I would rather watch the video of him working with Omar Vizquel on catching baseballs and footwork.  

I would rather see him taking an eye test or something.

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

I would rather see him taking an eye test or something.

Yea, he should hand out glasses to the umps working his at bats.  He lost about 10 points of OBP on absolute bullshit.

2 minutes ago, oneofthemikes said:

How worried should we be about this?

One, I don't trust that guy and two, even if I did it's just a timetable, they're not saying anything for either team in that tweet

1 minute ago, Stealth G.O.A.T. said:

I'm not too worried. Obviously anything can happen, but I wouldn't get too worked up about it either way.

I looked at some of the replies, whoever runs that page responded to a question and pretty much said Machado will probably sign this week. Not necessarily with the Phillies, just in general.