This is getting ridiculous.  Pure negotiations.   Lozano has been controlling the message the last 2 days.   Now the Sox responded.   I still hear good things and Hector just said he still thinks that he signs with Sox.  Take a deep breath. 

1 minute ago, Mbs1969 said:

This is getting ridiculous.  Pure negotiations.   Lozano has been controlling the message the last 2 days.   Now the Sox responded.   I still hear good things and Hector just said he still thinks that he signs with Sox.  Take a deep breath. 

preach

1 minute ago, Mbs1969 said:

This is getting ridiculous.  Pure negotiations.   Lozano has been controlling the message the last 2 days.   Now the Sox responded.   I still hear good things and Hector just said he still thinks that he signs with Sox.  Take a deep breath. 

Manny... is that you?

2 minutes ago, bmags said:

I do take the view that the lack of progression today is good news for the white sox.

This would be over already if the Sox actually backed down. 

2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

See Fields, Semien, Teahen, Beckham, Viciedo, Collins (coming soon, according to scouts), Burger...

Then all the money we have invested into 1B/DH types over the last two decades, versus catcher, middle infield and CF.

No patience, or a lack of ability to “fix fielders” like Cooper could fix pitchers.

it's been bad.

2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Yolmer takes the spot until Madrigal is ready and they race Madrigal up to the bigs as fast as possible.

Gee, that doesn’t sound familiar at all.   Watch, Robert will the next name mentioned to rush up and save us.

9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

So why is he moving Moncada for a guy who "might be there in the future"? (Madrigal). 

I mean he is technically there right now until towards the end of spring training.....

5 minutes ago, Mbs1969 said:

This is getting ridiculous.  Pure negotiations.   Lozano has been controlling the message the last 2 days.   Now the Sox responded.   I still hear good things and Hector just said he still thinks that he signs with Sox.  Take a deep breath. 

What did the white sox respond?

4 minutes ago, ptatc said:

More lineup flexibility? It is the way the game is morphing into.

As I said - lineup flexibility is fine once a guy has actually developed at his position. Moncada had tools to be a good 2b but he was weak there last year, he needed time to improve at the position and regular reps before we would hope for positive results. If he remains a weak, unpracticed 2b, and we have him also be a weak 3b because we've moved him around so often, we haven't done him or the team any favors.

The worst thing with this particular player, who is raw and needs work and reps, would be moving him back and forth. If you're going to start working him at 3b, put him there and keep him there and hope you have another 2b available soon. 

18 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Which RH had little if anything to do with.  And that's now 14 years ago.  The honeymoon period is long gone.  Remember, it was Hahn's disastrous off-season in 2015 that led to this rebuild.

He gets this year and next year.  If the team doesn't win more than 88 games next year he more than deserves to be canned.

2016 was worse- he spent $25 million on a bunch of nothing.  And June 2016, specifically, was a disaster.
He should have fired after 2016.  Once that didn't happen, I expect him to be GM for as long as he wants.

6 minutes ago, bmags said:

I do take the view that the lack of progression today is good news for the white sox.

Today has been a complete lack of progression of a day off from classes for me. ?

1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

As I said - lineup flexibility is fine once a guy has actually developed at his position. Moncada had tools to be a good 2b but he was weak there last year, he needed time to improve at the position and regular reps before we would hope for positive results. If he remains a weak, unpracticed 2b, and we have him also be a weak 3b because we've moved him around so often, we haven't done him or the team any favors.

The worst thing with this particular player, who is raw and needs work and reps, would be moving him back and forth. If you're going to start working him at 3b, put him there and keep him there and hope you have another 2b available soon. 

I don't know. That's true in general. However maybe they though he needs the mental breaks of doing something different. Last year he looked like a guy who would get too down and wrapped up in his own mind.

Well this has been fun.

7 minutes ago, bmags said:

But it's a bad decision absent Machado signing. I think it's okay to criticize it.

Maybe not if it’s posturing in negotiations. But that’s a whole other thing people could disagree with too. 

2 minutes ago, bmags said:

What did the white sox respond?

They had Renteria practice Yoan out at 3rd and say you may see him out there at the opener.  Lozano is trying to leverage them into increasing offer.   This was their response.   Everyone step back from the ledge.   

Just now, Mbs1969 said:

They had Renteria practice Yoan out at 3rd and say you may see him out there at the opener.  Lozano is trying to leverage them into increasing offer.   This was their response.   Everyone step back from the ledge.   

Huh. You don't say.

5 minutes ago, TitoMB345 said:

Well this has been fun.

As I said about page 300, highly entertaining.  I don't think too many people realize it's just a game and has no real bearing on their lives. It's entertainment. 

Edited February 18, 20197 yr by ptatc

45 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

We’re still JUST #6.

Not quite the most suffering franchise in all of professional sports...at least not yet.

Doesn't have to be the most and I've suffered a lot.

Edited February 18, 20197 yr by Saufley

16 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

So why is he moving Moncada for a guy who "might be there in the future"? (Madrigal). 

Madrigal is at least in the org let’s not pretend it’s the same as a FA

5 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

2016 was worse- he spent $25 million on a bunch of nothing.  And June 2016, specifically, was a disaster.
He should have fired after 2016.  Once that didn't happen, I expect him to be GM for as long as he wants.

RT. Trading Chris Sale was probably the right move. Putting yourself in a postion where you have to trade Chris Sale should be a fireable offense.

Just now, ptatc said:

As I said about page 300, highly entertaining.  I don't think too many peop,e realize it's just a game and has no real bearing on their lives. It's entertainment. 

I wouldnt call what they have run out there for the past 10 years exactly entertainment....

6 minutes ago, Mbs1969 said:

They had Renteria practice Yoan out at 3rd and say you may see him out there at the opener.  Lozano is trying to leverage them into increasing offer.   This was their response.   Everyone step back from the ledge.   

LMAO. A quarter of a billion  dollar player who would rather play SS, and the Sox are going to get him to flinch by having Moncada take grounders at 3B. Get real. It isn’t like he has no other options.

Edited February 18, 20197 yr by Dick Allen

2 minutes ago, ptatc said:

As I said about page 300, highly entertaining.  I don't think too many peop,e realize it's just a game and has no real bearing on their lives. It's entertainment. 

3 minutes ago, Mbs1969 said:

They had Renteria practice Yoan out at 3rd and say you may see him out there at the opener.  Lozano is trying to leverage them into increasing offer.   This was their response.   Everyone step back from the ledge.   

 

Just now, beckham15 said:

I wouldnt call what they have run out there for the past 10 years exactly entertainment....

I would. I've had season tickets the whole time and I've enjoyed going to the games.