This thread is to have a place to get your negative energy out and not poison other threads. It would be appreciated if some optimists showed up every now and then to talk us all off  the ledge.

Sox farm system sucks. Madrigal sucks. Collins sucks. Those that don't suck are hurt or will suck after returning from injuries. Sources suck.  The Super Bowl sucks.  Basically, in the end we're all going to die after paying more than our fair share in taxes.  And Jack Parkman is too optimistic about the farm system and not optimistic enough about Lucas Giolito's TOR potential.

Edited February 5, 20197 yr by caulfield12

Barring injury, Yolmer will start the season at third.

Robin Ventura

Just now, Orlando said:

Robin Ventura

I now realize that his tenure as manager has really messed me up.

Edited February 5, 20197 yr by Orlando

Terry Bevington was just named special assistant to the ghost of Buddy Bell, and will be coordating the assignments of Jeff Keppinger, Mark Teahen and Emilio Bonifacio as roving minor league fielding instructors.

”Loyalty in this special organization know no bounds.”   Chris Getz

Edited February 5, 20197 yr by caulfield12

I still hold a grudge against Ozzie for playing Andy Gonzalez so damn much.

OK, I'll contribute to your Psychological exercise:

If Mr. Machado is still pining for the Yankees, then I'm over pining for him. If the Sox have actually offered him 8 years and $250 Million +, and certainly extended themselves in other ways to make him feel comfortable, yet he still doesn't want to come to the South Side, I'd be ok with just moving on. This team is not going to compete for the Division, in 2019, with Manny, even if they sign him. I'm personally ok with one more year of the rebuild and one more Draft, after this year's #3 pick. Therefore, I would suggest the following:

1) Trade Alonso and Jay, at the nearest opportunity, even if the Sox have to pay part of the contracts. Neither has any long term usefulness, on the contending team, starting in 2020.

2) Give the outfield corners' playing time to Eloy and Palka, who might also spend a little time DH'ing or spelling Jose at 1ST, while he DH's. If Palka hits enough, he could be a useful piece going forward, given his age and lack of service time. He might ultimately be a first baseman, or a DH. That left handed bat can always be useful, if he gets on base enough.

3) Let Engel start the year in CF, in order to shore up the questionable outfield defense. Once Luis Gonzalez, who is the oldest and probably the closest to Major League ready prospect, is ready, bring him up and let him vie for the position, until Robert is ready, in a couple of years. Monitor the progress of the promising corner outfielders, to see who might ultimately emerge as a viable candidate. Adolfo, Rutherford, Basabe and Walker all have a decent chance of developing into valuable pieces, but playing a corner, they need to hit. Gonzalez may end up moving to a corner, when Robert is ready, and having been brought up early could help to determine if his bat plays well enough for him to fill a corner OF slot.

4) Move Moncada to 3RD and give him a year to get comfortable there. Yolmer goes back to his natural position at 2ND, which he can very capably hold down until Madrigal is ready, hopefully next year.

5) Don't acquire any more veteran starting pitchers, but instead give the starts to the youngsters in an attempt to find out who can fill the rotation, behind Kopech, Cease and Rodon, starting in 2020. There are enough promising arms in the organization to fill the staff, starting with Lopez, Giolito, Hansen, Lambert, Banuelos and Covey. Fulmer may even finally figure it out. Hopefully, a few will emerge and take the pressure off the need to retain Rodon, on an expensive free agent contract, in 2022.

6) Save the financial resources to extend the younger guys, who will hopefully emerge as solid core pieces. Use the rest of the money to fill any holes which still exist starting in 2020.

7) Let's see which of our Minor League players take a big enough step forward, and begin to use that farm system capital as trading chips, after they have established decent Minor League resumes.

8  Mix the newly acquired, veteran bullpen arms with the best relief prospects, in hopes of sorting out who might be counted on to handle the load, starting in 2020. Guys like Burdi, Ruiz, Hamilton, Tyler Johnson and Fry might be good enough to make up the bulk of the relief core, after Herrera and Colome exit.

9) I don’t know what to think about catcher, as there is a good chance that the Sox could select one with their #3 pick, in this June’s Draft. If Rutschman is available at #3, I suspect that the Sox would grab him. Then too, it will be interesting to see what kind of year Langeliers has. If they take someone else, like Vaughn, then I assume that both Zevala and Collins remain the prime candidates, starting in 2020.

There, I feel better now. Thank you.

Edited February 5, 20197 yr by Lillian

I need to poop but can not

This is the type of therapy I need.

 

I need the Sox to stop dicking around and sign Harper and Machado to big time contracts. Fuck man their 26, just sign them up and make life easier. They have the money....

When Machado or Harper hits a walk-off HR in July, we won’t care whether we signed them in December or February.

 

It's going to be the coldest stretch of weather here in a decade.  Matches the temp of the FA market.  FML.  And we had 50s all fucking winter.  Fuck this new wavy ass jet stream.

I love the White Sox 

4 minutes ago, elrockinMT said:

I love the White Sox 

HEY! STAY ON TOPIC!! KEEP THAT POSITIVE TALK OUT OF HERE!

I love the White Sox too.

I will be upset if do not get one of the Whales but I root for the team and will do so whether Machado or Yolmer is at 3rd this year.  Same for Harper or Palka.

White Sox, White Sox, Go Go White Sox!!!!

We better not “fail to convert on a premium talent”

We are at the table...we absolutely belong at the table for premium talent.

This thread is great.  I find it cathartic to spout off Hahnisms

3 hours ago, hi8is said:

I need to poop but can not

may I suggest eating about 4 or 5 Quest bars... works like a charm.

Sox sux, JR is cheap, Hahn is a cub fan, KW always gets his guy too late, Madrigal is small, Collins hits for a low BA, Coop can't fix shit, Moncada is a lost cause after his first full season, TA needs to be a catcher, Sox failed to sign Avi to an extension, Sox won't bring back Ozzie, Ricky is our guy, Yolmer is only good for self inflicted Gatorade dunkings, Engel is the long term CF of the future, why the fuck isn't Eloy up yet?, Robert is made of glass, Hansen is a ghost in the shell of his former prospect status, Hahn can't find his Joc, the trades have been over-pays, Harper is sleeping with Bryant and the reason Harper won't sign with the Sox, Johnny Hustle won't listen to his BFF or brother in law, Giolito still has front line starter potential while Lopez is a mid-rotation starter at best on a good day skateboarding downhill with a strong tail wind, Hahn is a cub fan ( needed to be stressed again), Sox are still tanking for draft position, Fulmer will never be a starter but should be given another shot, Clarkin was lost-found-then lost again, and last but not least JR is Fucking cheap. 

That being said... I miss you White Sox baseball and please return soon!

Wow look at what we have become. Even our negative energy thread cant stay on topic and turns positive. ? 

1 hour ago, Orlando said:

HEY! STAY ON TOPIC!! KEEP THAT POSITIVE TALK OUT OF HERE!

I am sorry for ruining everyone’s day

Glad. I slept through the Ricketts exchanges...and Buddy Bell still sucks!  By the way, what the hell is MBFFL?

Fernando Tatis Jr for James Shields.

If the Sox get Machado at 7/175 but with a two year fucking opt out that they could avoid by offering, idk like 8/240 or some weak ass shit, I’m gonna be pissed.