No f’ing way Marcell Ozuna gets $160M. I doubt he even gets 1/2 that. 

Gonna go out on a limb and say blue jays aren't going to sign him.

Ozuna would be lucky to get $80M guaranteed. $160M over 7 is insane. 

Obviously hes hot getting that. But Gomez has Sox sources right? Forgot what he had broke about them but it was a couple big things. Then he was wrong in Machado but I guess right to an extent in that they were the only player for him until they werent.

This early in the off-season, I would expect an article like this to highlight a team's glaring need more than any real connection. I expect the Sox to be there, but right now, i'm certain there's nothing to this.

12 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Obviously hes hot getting that. But Gomez has Sox sources right? Forgot what he had broke about them but it was a couple big things. Then he was wrong in Machado but I guess right to an extent in that they were the only player for him until they werent.

I don't think he was really wrong about Machado. He seemed like he was going to sign here. If Padres don't jump in last minute, he's in Chicago.

This seems like the type of signing where he goes to the AL and puts up career lows. Plus he is a clown on defense. Give me JD 10/10 times if we're going this route. 

6 minutes ago, Sockin said:

This seems like the type of signing where he goes to the AL and puts up career lows. Plus he is a clown on defense. Give me JD 10/10 times if we're going this route. 

He's clearly good, but for him the margin between good and bad is very thin. His offense isn't elite, it's good. His defense is bad. If his offense regresses, he's bad.

He's a guy I just don't feel I would think "well RF is now solved for years", and so it's hard to want to give him that 4 year deal.

There's exactly two teams on that list I think are even a remote possibility.

How much worse is JDM in the outfield compared to Ozuna? 

5 minutes ago, mqr said:

There's exactly two teams on that list I think are even a remote possibility.

Yeah it's big list of rebuilding teams. If he has no serious teams as his suitors that's not good for him getting the amount he wants.

If players like Ozuna are going for even $100+ million, this rebuild’s in serious trouble already.

It would force the White Sox right back into trawling the Tier B/C waters for value deals.

Not exactly Hahn’s forte.

3 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

How much worse is JDM in the outfield compared to Ozuna? 

A lot. 

4 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

How much worse is JDM in the outfield compared to Ozuna? 

If the answer is "not that much worse", sign JDM instead.

Edit: I guess we have an answer lol

Edited October 21, 20196 yr by soxfan2014

6 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

If the answer is "not that much worse", sign JDM instead.

Edit: I guess we have an answer lol

Ozuna was at 2 DRS this year in 130 games.  JDM was -7 in 300 innings. Ozuna isn't good in the outfield, but I don't think he's nearly as bad as some people make out. JD should be unplayable

Edited October 21, 20196 yr by mqr

I actually think Ozuna could end up being a decent value for us if he has a pick attached to him and has a soft market like many think he will. 
 

If we could plug Ozuna into RF for 3/48 would anyone be upset?

Just now, TheFutureIsNear said:

I actually think Ozuna could end up being a decent value for us if he has a pick attached to him and has a soft market like many think he will. 
 

If we could plug Ozuna into RF for 3/48 would anyone be upset?

That would be better, obviously but he’s going to get closer to 4/$80 due to his age, past breakouts and the dearth of quality position players on the market.  

Anything less than $65-70 million total would be a bit shocking.  

He’s simply not going to get a deal quite similar to Melky Cabrera’s from a half decade ago.

3 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

I actually think Ozuna could end up being a decent value for us if he has a pick attached to him and has a soft market like many think he will. 
 

If we could plug Ozuna into RF for 3/48 would anyone be upset?

3/$48?! Hell no, would love that, but not sure I see that happening...Dude's not an MVP, but a very good player, although no AL experience (Dunn, LaRoche, Frazier)

12 minutes ago, bmags said:

Yeah it's big list of rebuilding teams. If he has no serious teams as his suitors that's not good for him getting the amount he wants.

'He's looking for this much money, here is a list of teams that would never give him that in a million years'

Would be a surprise if CWS didn't show interest in Ozuna, still don't think it happens and don't love that rumored term either

Well, who the hell knows what the Mariners will do any given year...?

9 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

I actually think Ozuna could end up being a decent value for us if he has a pick attached to him and has a soft market like many think he will. 
 

If we could plug Ozuna into RF for 3/48 would anyone be upset?

I think if his market dips that much, you have to be interested.  But I think you still to acquire a LH hitting OF that can play RF most days with Ozuna at DH, and occasionally in RF/LF. 

9 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

I actually think Ozuna could end up being a decent value for us if he has a pick attached to him and has a soft market like many think he will. 
 

If we could plug Ozuna into RF for 3/48 would anyone be upset?

I'm hesitant to commit $80 million to Ozuna, but I'll totally go with that deal and if it blows up I'll call it a gamble I'd do again.

5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

That would be better, obviously but he’s going to get closer to 4/$80 due to his age, past breakouts and the dearth of quality position players on the market.  

Anything less than $65-70 million total would be a bit shocking.  

He’s simply not going to get a deal quite similar to Melky Cabrera’s from a half decade ago.

Yeah we’ll see...won’t shock me if he gets $80M just because he may be the best OF’er available. But I also feel like most of the MLB has smartened up when it comes to throwing $ around, especially when draft picks are attached too. Can’t forget most teams are going to put a $ amount to that pick that will only hurt Ozuna. 
 

Take away 2017 and it’s hard to argue that Ozuna is anything other than above average...are there many teams willing to pay an above average OF’er $17+M over 3/4 years years? Maybe, the market is never easy to predict year to year