As long as Cole and Strasburg are still available, you'd have to figure teams like the Angels, Yankees, and Padres may hesitate to make an aggressive 5 year offer to Wheeler, as that could make it more financially challenging for them to sign either of those other guys.  So from a strategic standpoint, this seems like the perfect time for the Sox to make an aggressive offer to Wheeler to try to entice him to sign early.

2 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said:

As long as Cole and Strasburg are still available, you'd have to figure teams like the Angels, Yankees, and Padres may hesitate to make an aggressive 5 year offer to Wheeler, as that could make it more financially challenging for them to sign either of those other guys.  So from a strategic standpoint, this seems like the perfect time for the Sox to make an aggressive offer to Wheeler to try to entice him to sign early.

Right.  Offer him 5/$95M right now and get it done.  

11 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said:

As long as Cole and Strasburg are still available, you'd have to figure teams like the Angels, Yankees, and Padres may hesitate to make an aggressive 5 year offer to Wheeler, as that could make it more financially challenging for them to sign either of those other guys.  So from a strategic standpoint, this seems like the perfect time for the Sox to make an aggressive offer to Wheeler to try to entice him to sign early.

Wheeler should wait to see who misses out on Cole and Stras, as that should make them more desperate.

8 minutes ago, fathom said:

Wheeler should wait to see who misses out on Cole and Stras, as that should make them more desperate.

As the last year has shown...once you get an offer you're ready to sign, there's a huge risk to waiting longer. 

If he's sitting there at $75 million offers...fine you wait. If someone puts 9 figures on the table...

14 minutes ago, fathom said:

Wheeler should wait to see who misses out on Cole and Stras, as that should make them more desperate.

Wheeler should sign with the White Sox ASAP on a team friendly deal 

1 hour ago, mqr said:

Even though him signing with the Twins would actually be a much worse scenario, I will lose my shit if he signs with the Padres. 

Either is a nightmare.

1 hour ago, Perfect Vision said:

As long as Cole and Strasburg are still available, you'd have to figure teams like the Angels, Yankees, and Padres may hesitate to make an aggressive 5 year offer to Wheeler, as that could make it more financially challenging for them to sign either of those other guys.  So from a strategic standpoint, this seems like the perfect time for the Sox to make an aggressive offer to Wheeler to try to entice him to sign early.

100% agree, but there should a few other teams like the Twins trying to execute a similar strategy.

1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said:

Right.  Offer him 5/$95M right now and get it done.  

Just do 5/$100M so both he and our front office can brag about a nine figure contract.

57 minutes ago, fathom said:

Wheeler should wait to see who misses out on Cole and Stras, as that should make them more desperate.

That may not be to February.

3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Just do 5/$100M so both he and our front office can brag about a nine figure contract.

I honestly don’t think he ends up getting that much, but sure. I DGAF about $5M over 5 years. 

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

I honestly don’t think he ends up getting that much, but sure. I DGAF about $5M over 5 years. 

I’m just thinking $100M is the magical number that gets him to sign early.

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m just thinking $100M is the magical number that gets him to sign early.

Yeah,  if he's in a lower range than that, there's reason for him to think a better offer will show up. If he gets to that level, that might be the "Take it and be done with it" level.

We’ve been speculating $100-115 million from the original 4/$80 “reasonable” price.

Still not sure $100 gets it done unless he really has his heart set on Chicago and doesn’t want to wait it out.

He’s not ever going to be a second or third tier option this offseason, so not sure how waiting until January/February has more negatives than positives attached to it.

From a Hahn standpoint, getting one big name in the fold early is huge in terms of setting up the other moves.  Devil’s Advocate of course is that Melky, Robertson and LaRoche didn’t exactly work out when we “won” that particular offseason.

What do you make of this:

Wheeler's Market Value, According to Spotrac

 

His numbers and age are eerily similar to Corbin's. I think he might get $100MM/4, and perhaps more than that.

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m just thinking $100M is the magical number that gets him to sign early.

I think that would get him. Corbin got $23 and Eovaldi got $17. I think Wheeler at $20 is a good number. 

5 minutes ago, Two-Gun Pete said:

What do you make of this:

Wheeler's Market Value, According to Spotrac

 

His numbers and age are eerily similar to Corbin's. I think he might get $100MM/4, and perhaps more than that.

But NL vs AL. Got to pay an NL pitcher more since they also bat.............................................

Might be just me, but I still think anywhere from 5/92-98 gets it done for Wheeler. Knowing the Sox, they will want a team option somewhere in that deal, so maybe the offer will have like a $20MM team option for ‘25. Who knows, just going off of history here. 

14 hours ago, fathom said:

Wheeler should wait to see who misses out on Cole and Stras, as that should make them more desperate.

Only if he likes waiting til late January to know where he will be living and working.  Like they say in the house buying trade...sometimes your first offer is the best offer.

16 hours ago, cjgalloway said:

If we don't go 5 we have no chance.  Of course we should.

Sox will go 4x20 on Wheeler and say they almost had him. 

18 minutes ago, pcq said:

Sox will go 4x20 on Wheeler and say they almost had him. 

Actually they will offer 4/50 and a option year with incentives would be for 50 million lol. 

1 hour ago, poppysox said:

Only if he likes waiting til late January to know where he will be living and working.  Like they say in the house buying trade...sometimes your first offer is the best offer.

If someone offered me ten million plus if I could wait two more months to move I would.

27 minutes ago, pcq said:

Sox will go 4x20 on Wheeler and say they almost had him. 

"We like Zack alot and offered him 40 times what he was making last year...he just decided to go another way"

7 minutes ago, wegner said:

"We like Zack alot and offered him 40 times what he was making last year...he just decided to go another way"

"We offered Zack 5/85MM with 20MM incentives if he wins 7 CY Young awards during his contract,  our offer was better than the 5/$105MM GTD.  We no longer have a seat at the table."

I'm just going on record being against this signing. He'll probably get something like 5/125 and pitch maybe 2.5 of those years.

30 minutes ago, bmags said:

If someone offered me ten million plus if I could wait two more months to move I would.

Yep...we are all different.