4 hours ago, teorey23 said:

??? Get Ready

One day it’ll happen for ya kid

6 hours ago, Jack Parkman said:

Has anyone retweeted you thinking it was real? 

no, but that Stephen Lombardo replied to it. He's the one who said that Wheeler was in Chicago last week.

7 minutes ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said:

no, but that Stephen Lombardo replied to it. He's the one who said that Wheeler was in Chicago last week.

Dudes replied to every Wheeler tweet known to man.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/03/zack-wheeler-ready-to-break-the-bank-with-bidding-war-nearly-over/

 

Time frame the next 2-3 days to the end of next week's Winter Meetings.

White Sox, Reds, Twins, Rangers specifically mentioned.

$100 million offer described as "in the right ballpark."

Edited December 4, 20196 yr by caulfield12

 oh boy

13 minutes ago, Bad Hombre said:

 oh boy

I'm so tired of the Sox being an "also-ran". We've been watching this team at the bottom of the heap for too long. The core is here, more young talent is on the way.

Spend the money and get your guy.

15 minutes ago, Bad Hombre said:

 oh boy

The Phillies are the team on there that scare me. They've already spent a ton (on Harper and others), and probably feel a need to spend more to make it all come together. If any team goes to 6 years with Wheeler, they would probably be the one.

Buster listing the Sox as “also involved” now is concerning to me. It seemed like he was implying it was a done deal earlier. Now they are just listed as “also involved”, shows me that they have probably fallen behind.

Also, the fact that Buster tweeted that at 4am seems to imply that negotiations are ongoing and can end any minute

 

5 minutes ago, Orlando said:

 

Hopefully he is in error about the top bidders. 

6 minutes ago, Orlando said:

 

This isn't good news, but also not a big surprise. The Phillies have already gone all-in with their chips, and their chances of landing Cole or Strasburg are probably not all that great.

They will have beaten the Sox for Harper, Realmuto and Wheeler if he turns out to be right...

9 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

No not even close to $100M if you remember the Fangraphs ranking of FA's about a month ago. Scroll down to #9. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2020-top-50-free-agents/

Thanks...excellent article.  Hope it accurate.

It remains to be seen if the Wheeler bidding will play out the way that it did for left-hander Patrick Corbin last winter. Some teams, including the Yankees, expressed a willingness to offer deals of five years, but were reluctant to offer a sixth year -- and Washington separated itself from the pack by dangling a six-year, $140 million contract. There seems to be a group of teams prepared to offer Wheeler five-year deals.

https://tv5.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28222913/sources-phillies-seen-top-bidder-zack-wheeler

8 hours ago, bmags said:

So say you sign Ryu at 18 million/yr instead of wheeler at 22/yr. You have 4 million to go after a lot more pieces.

We could just sign Wheeler and Ryu plus sign two of the best relievers we can find.  Might as well become a pitching powerhouse.

Just do 6/120 for Wheeler with the 6th year being a team option of $18M and a $4M buyout. That 6th year buyout is just chalked up to cost of doing business. By the time 2025 rolls around, $18M will be #4 starter money anyways. 

Edited December 4, 20196 yr by Soxnfins

9 hours ago, teorey23 said:

??? Get Ready

Honestly, I was feeling very confident until Teorey pretended to play insider again.  This really could be the mark of death for us.

Philly just let Maikel Franco and Cesar Hernandez go...fwiw, Arrieta in last year of his deal.

Also in hot pursuit of DiDi Gregorious.

 

Its going to really suck if we have to deal with Boras on Ryu...fwiw, Bumgarner is represented by The Legacy Agency. Right now, Boras controls the top #1-2, #4, #6.  

Hamels and Wheeler are the other two without Boras Corp representation.

https://theathletic.com/945374/2019/04/25/rosenthal-has-agent-scott-boras-failed-to-adapt-assessing-his-winners-and-losers-in-free-agency/

Edited December 4, 20196 yr by caulfield12

54 minutes ago, Orlando said:

 

Zero reason to panic over this as leaks happen for a reason.  Most likely, this is Wheeler’s camp wantIng other teams to think The Phillies are ahead of them in hopes of bumping their offers.

1 hour ago, Orlando said:

Buster listing the Sox as “also involved” now is concerning to me. It seemed like he was implying it was a done deal earlier. Now they are just listed as “also involved”, shows me that they have probably fallen behind.

A. Are you really surprised

B. The White Sox are still way less desirable than many of these teams

C. Maybe it will be a blessing, they need numerous upgrades that they can use all that money on 

2 minutes ago, whitesoxbrad said:

A. Are you really surprised

B. The White Sox are still way less desirable than many of these teams

C. Maybe it will be a blessing, they need numerous upgrades that they can use all that money on 

How the fuck are the White Sox way less desirable than the Phillies, Rangers, & Reds?  You’re just hating to hate.

And what are these numerous upgrades we need?  Two SPs, a RF, and a bullpen arm?  Guess what, we have the financial flexibility to add Wheeler and fill those other spots.  This would not be a blessing in disguise.

6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Zero reason to panic over this as leaks happen for a reason.  Most likely, this is Wheeler’s camp wantIng other teams to think The Phillies are ahead of them in hopes of bumping their offers.

i feel like the Nightengale article might have been for that purpose. The reputation of Buster is > Nightengale in the "will run to publish anything he's given" respect, right?

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

How the fuck are the White Sox way less desirable than the Phillies, Rangers, & Reds?  You’re just hating to hate.

And what are these numerous upgrades we need?  Two SPs, a RF, and a bullpen arm?  Guess what, we have the financial flexibility to add Wheeler and fill those other spots.  This would not be a blessing in disguise.

Arguably DH if you don’t believe in Zack Collins...

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

How the fuck are the White Sox way less desirable than the Phillies, Rangers, & Reds?  You’re just hating to hate.

And what are these numerous upgrades we need?  Two SPs, a RF, and a bullpen arm?  Guess what, we have the financial flexibility to add Wheeler and fill those other spots.  This would not be a blessing in disguise.

Yeah I don’t see how the Phillies are more desirable unless it’s the Girardi effect... otherwise the Phillies always seem competitive, then they end up missing the playoffs the majority of the time. Reminds me of the modern day Cowboys actually... buy what you want, but always fall short.