Just now, SCCWS said:

I wonder if a guy like Wheeler would prefer to stay in NL because of no DH and being familiar w the hitters or would he prefer the AL because the hitters would not be as familiar w his stuff. 



Guys like Wheeler would pitch against the all-star team every week and have a 9 ERA if you rolled up a brinks truck to his house.  

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The good news is this will end before the end of the week assuming there are already three nine figure offers in place.

At the latest, by the end of the Winter Meetings next week...

Just now, southsideirish71 said:

There is absolutely zero reason the sox do not come out with one of Cole, Wheeler or Strasburg.  There is no excuse for this that is acceptable.  I could care less on salary or years at this point.  We have two ToR pitchers on the market now who are playoff battle tested.  Get one of them.  Anything else is a failure at this point.  I don't want to see "well we tried or stupid agents and players want money and security".   Get it done.  

100% agree and if they’re afraid to do something massive with Cole or Strasburg, then they have to land Wheeler no matter the cost.

 

It'll be a sad state of affairs if we miss on the 3rd or 4th best pitching option in a free-agent class. We may not like the numbers that are being thrown around but that's the going rate for solid pitching.

If we commit to these arbitrary contract length restrictions and are resigned to shopping in the bargain bin to fill out the roster, we're going to end up wasting a great young core.

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

At the latest, by the end of the Winter Meetings next week...

This won’t go that long.  We’re in the end game now.

Just now, southsideirish71 said:

Guys like Wheeler would pitch against the all-star team every week and have a 9 ERA if you rolled up a brinks truck to his house.  

Agree. I am saying if he is weighing pretty comparable AL vs NL deals. 

 

 

1 minute ago, Orlando said:

 

Just regurgitating what the other insiders are saying...nothing new here.

 

2 minutes ago, SCCWS said:

Agree. I am saying if he is weighing pretty comparable AL vs NL deals. 



 

 

I believe he will take the highest offer.  If the Marlins rolled up with 6 years and 140 million the next day he is on TV smiling with his marlins uniform talking about how its his dream to be in Miami.  You will get stories about him vacationing there and how he loves the team.  

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2 minutes ago, oneofthemikes said:

It'll be a sad state of affairs if we miss on the 3rd or 4th best pitching option in a free-agent class. We may not like the numbers that are being thrown around but that's the going rate for solid pitching.

If we commit to these arbitrary contract length restrictions and are resigned to shopping in the bargain bin to fill out the roster, we're going to end up wasting a great young core.

And of course, teams have found impactful pitching in that short term bucket...just not the white Sox and they’ve made no changes for us to believe this time will be different.

3 minutes ago, oneofthemikes said:

It'll be a sad state of affairs if we miss on the 3rd or 4th best pitching option in a free-agent class. We may not like the numbers that are being thrown around but that's the going rate for solid pitching.

If we commit to these arbitrary contract length restrictions and are resigned to shopping in the bargain bin to fill out the roster, we're going to end up wasting a great young core.

Yep, we’ll be so concerned with extending them we waste the time they are already here.

Why do the fucking Phillies always have to ruin everything 

2 minutes ago, Baron said:

 

Well, definitely not an agent ploy as Jim is as legit as it gets

14 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

The Nationals would have won the World Series without Corbin?

You dont have to be wasteful to win a  world series.

I get that warm and fuzzy feeling just like last year with the "Padres aren't serious" people here barking about how this is an agent ploy. 

Guys - For the record, the Phillies were one of the teams in hot pursuit of Corbin last year and would not go six years.  I’m not suggesting they aren’t a legit threat here, but like most teams they have their valuations and tend to stick to them.

Sounds to me like Phillies went to 6. Sox should try to get creative - maybe an opt out after 3 years instead of going to 6. 

6 years for a guy with his injury history and for a guy who really relies heavily on throwing 98 mph is pretty risky.

Welp it isn’t looking promising on the Sox end. 

1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Sounds to me like Phillies went to 6. Sox should try to get creative - maybe an opt out after 3 years instead of going to 6. 

6 years for a guy with his injury history and for a guy who really relies heavily on throwing 98 mph is pretty risky.

So is having Dallas Keuchel being your big pitching addition.

50 minutes ago, poppysox said:

Yeah...Philly and Cinci are really desirable places to live.

I did not mean to live, and if you want to go there, harper, and arrietta 

didn't seem to have any  problem with philly, and guess what we are Chicago but the wrong side right now, hopefully that will change.

Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Sounds to me like Phillies went to 6. Sox should try to get creative - maybe an opt out after 3 years instead of going to 6. 

6 years for a guy with his injury history and for a guy who really relies heavily on throwing 98 mph is pretty risky.

I agree. 6 years for a guy with a history of injury is a huge risk. There are some better options out there for cheap with less risk. 

1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Sounds to me like Phillies went to 6. Sox should try to get creative - maybe an opt out after 3 years instead of going to 6. 

6 years for a guy with his injury history and for a guy who really relies heavily on throwing 98 mph is pretty risky.

They wouldn’t go six years for Corbin, you think they’ve gone six for Wheeler based on what?

Wheeler or bust. They won't spend on Cole or Strasburg and I don't want Bumgarner or Keuchel.

1 minute ago, HahnsKiddieTable said:

Welp it isn’t looking promising on the Sox end. 

Here we go again! The sky is falling when it’s only the start of the offseason.