3 minutes ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said:

Sloppy SS2K5 at it again

"Sloppy" is really the best you can come up with?    You're slipping.    Like a certain someone ("from out West"), he evades easily being vulnerable to attack, by being...usually, reasonable/normal/rational/level-headed/mature.

Edited August 16, 20205 yr by caulfield12

When is the Yoelkis Cespedes era suppose to begin?

Mendick not exactly hauling down the line either, does this team even like playing baseball?  It's an honest question.  Maybe not for this manager or at least not with this group of guys.

36 pitches seen the first time through the order is nice to see.

In 120 games last year Eloy hit 31 homers and a .830 ops.

In 2020, he'd be on pace for 36 homers and an ops of .820.

And we're disappointed? Lord, what a fanbase

Just now, soxfan49 said:

In 120 games last year Eloy hit 31 homers and a .830 ops.

In 2020, he'd be on pace for 36 homers and an ops of .820.

And we're disappointed? Lord, what a fanbase

Given his defense an 820 OPS is at best 2 WAR.  At that point he's Avi.  That's not what we signed up for.

1 minute ago, SoxAce said:

When is the Yoelkis Cespedes era suppose to begin?

Instead, White Sox shake the baseball world by signing both his AWOL/opting-out older brother and YOELKIS, and Oscar Colas.

2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

"Sloppy" is really the best you can come up with?    You're slipping.    Like a certain someone ("from out West"), he evades easily being vulnerable to attack, by being...usually, reasonable/normal/rational/level-headed/mature.

Another nasty post.

Nice running catch by Mazara 

Just now, chitownsportsfan said:

Given his defense an 820 OPS is at best 2 WAR.  At that point he's Avi.  That's not what we signed up for.

Yeah, we were promised a slightly lesser Manny Ramirez or Miguel Cabrera in terms of hitting impact.

That's at least an 875-925 guy in this day and age, but I'd argue 900-950ish.

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Given his defense an 820 OPS is at best 2 WAR.  At that point he's Avi.  That's not what we signed up for.

If you signed up for good defense, of course he's a disappointment, but on that note, if you signed up for good defense, shame on you. Who gives a fuck about WAR if he's a 900-950 ops guy in his prime? Your life is disappointing

Edited August 16, 20205 yr by soxfan49

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Given his defense an 820 OPS is at best 2 WAR.  At that point he's Avi.  That's not what we signed up for.

This is no where near his ceiling. 

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Given his defense an 820 OPS is at best 2 WAR.  At that point he's Avi.  That's not what we signed up for.

^^^^^^^^

Jose has such a bad habit of stabbing at the baseball, fairly amazing to see a MLB 1B do it so often.

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

Another nasty post.

This reminds me....how we've lost pretty much every single quality female poster in the history of Sox baseball the last couple of decades.

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

This is no where near his ceiling. 

This he is 23 years old and every other major league team would line up for his services

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

This is no where near his ceiling. 

Wasn't arguing that, was simply saying an 820 OPS, with his limitations in the field, is nothing special.  Of course he's still young and doesn't even have 600 MLB PA.

1 minute ago, soxfan49 said:

If you signed up for good defense, of course he's a disappointment, but on that note, if you signed up for good defense, shame on you. Who gives a fuck about WAR if he's a 900-950 ops guy in his prime? Your life is disappointing

Everyone's life is disappointing after we were 7-4 and on top of the world...briefly.

The only thing you can argue that is disappointing about Eloy (other than the defense) is his average. And that is mostly because he gets shifted on at the MLB level waaaaaay more than he did in the minors (I've seen numerous hits Eloy had get robbed cause of the shift). 

Just now, chitownsportsfan said:

Wasn't arguing that, was simply saying an 820 OPS, with his limitations in the field, is nothing special.  Of course he's still young and doesn't even have 600 MLB PA.

Like Madrigal at 675-700ish OPS, just not good enough to be a true impact player.  There's always that trade off between offense and defense for the majority of players today.

27 minutes ago, fathom said:

Agreed he’s hurting them more than helping 

Waiting for Madrigal yo get back before they rest Moncada.

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

This reminds me....how we've lost pretty much every single quality female poster in the history of Sox baseball the last couple of decades.

Too much moodiness and hormones probably. 

1 minute ago, SoxAce said:

The only thing you can argue that is disappointing about Eloy (other than the defense) is his average. And that is mostly because he gets shifted on at the MLB level waaaaaay more than he did in the minors (I've seen numerous hits Eloy had get robbed cause of the shift). 

I was expecting him to walk more than he has. Basically, I was expecting JD Martinez, or something like .290/.350/.900+

 

Edited August 16, 20205 yr by Jack Parkman

Just now, poppysox said:

Waiting for Madrigal yo get back before they rest Moncada.

I am not convinced that Goins is a better option than a slumping Moncada.  

1 minute ago, SoxAce said:

The only thing you can argue that is disappointing about Eloy (other than the defense) is his average. And that is mostly because he gets shifted on at the MLB level waaaaaay more than he did in the minors (I've seen numerous hits Eloy had get robbed cause of the shift). 

But isn't THAT the job of each individual hitter to make adjustments?   Cue Greg rant that Jim Thome should be constantly bunting down the 3rd base line...and blowing out a hammy or Achilles' busting it down the line.