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I hope I am really wrong  but this fore arm tightness sounds like a early symptom of Tommy John

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    It usually happens at once.  A pitcher will tell you he either felt it snap or heard it pop.  They know the moment it happens.  That's why i'm optimistic it's a strain or a cramp.  He didn't react lik

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26 minutes ago, jaws7575 said:

I hope I am really wrong  but this fore arm tightness sounds like a early symptom of Tommy John

Is he turning into Tommy John?

I hope I am really wrong  but this fore arm tightness sounds like a early symptom of Tommy John

no jerk off

 

FWIW I looked at the  video of Crochet leaving the mound and he did not appear to be in pain.  Not sure that means anything but I thought i would mention it

33 minutes ago, jaws7575 said:

no jerk off

 

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That sucks. Hopefully he can avoid TJ.

It sounds bad but I would try conservative treatment first so you can keep him on the roster and send him down instead of 15 months of service time getting lost on the DL.

43 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said:

That sucks. Hopefully he can avoid TJ.

It sounds bad but I would try conservative treatment first so you can keep him on the roster and send him down instead of 15 months of service time getting lost on the DL.

Oh god, I didn’t even think of the Kopech like implications of an injury.

MLBExec burner mentioned in a reply comment that he will be fine per sources.

12 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

It usually happens at once.  A pitcher will tell you he either felt it snap or heard it pop.  They know the moment it happens.  That's why i'm optimistic it's a strain or a cramp.  He didn't react like it snapped.  

If I remember correctly, Kopech had no idea he tore his UCL.  Didn't he say he was surprised by the diagnosis?  It seems that sometimes the pitcher knows immediately he injured himself, and sometimes they don't know.

If it is TJS, i assume this is another Kopech situation where he is going to be on the mlb IL all next year? Or can the Sox option him? 

That's why I said it usually happens at once.  There are times when the ligament is so significantly frayed that it just breaks away which is what happened to Kopech. The more more frequent injury is the ligament snapping at once.   

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9 hours ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said:

Is he turning into Tommy John?

Garrett Crochet prays that he turns into Tommy John.  Dude had 26 year career and a borderline HOF one at that.  If we got that from Crochet, it would be a win of the highest magnitude.

8 hours ago, jaws7575 said:

no jerk off

 

Peavy44?!?

11 hours ago, Dominikk85 said:

That sucks. Hopefully he can avoid TJ.

It sounds bad but I would try conservative treatment first so you can keep him on the roster and send him down instead of 15 months of service time getting lost on the DL.

me too

24 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Any updates?

They are waiting for the DNA test to come back to see if the transformation into Tommy John is proceeding as planned.

12 hours ago, jaws7575 said:

no jerk off

 

Wait, are you telling him no, to jerking off?  That's just rude.

3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Garrett Crochet prays that he turns into Tommy John.  Dude had 26 year career and a borderline HOF one at that.  If we got that from Crochet, it would be a win of the highest magnitude.

And if we can trade him after seven productive seasons along with a utility infielder for the equivalent of Dick Allen I'll be ecstatic!

3 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Any updates?

Sox stayed overnight in California. They just landed, so maybe tomorrow they’ll check him out.

13 minutes ago, flavum said:

Sox stayed overnight in California. They just landed, so maybe tomorrow they’ll check him out.

I would have made them take the red eye....only winners get an overnight stay :cool:

Bad sign we haven’t heard anything. 
 

I didn’t want to be Jump to conclusions mat, but TJ  seems more and more likely. 

23 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

That's why I said it usually happens at once.  There are times when the ligament is so significantly frayed that it just breaks away which is what happened to Kopech. The more more frequent injury is the ligament snapping at once.   

I think the ligament never really snaps at once. Of course at some point it will snap but it always was weakened before, an uncompromised UCL won't tear.

One theory with the forearm strains that sometimes occur before tj is the ligament kinda gets stretched out or loosened a little and then forearm muscles try to do the job of the ligament and stabilize the elbow which can lead to overload of those muscles when throwing and subsequently muscle strains.

Not sure if that is really true though and even if it is not every strain must be related to an ucl problem. Often forearm strains occur before ucl injuries but sometimes they are just forearm strains and the elbow is ok after a couple weeks of rest.

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Blackout Friday said:

Bad sign we haven’t heard anything. 
 

I didn’t want to be Jump to conclusions mat, but TJ  seems more and more likely. 

Don’t they typically announce Tommy John issues pretty quickly?

53 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Don’t they typically announce Tommy John issues pretty quickly?

I think anything big they’ll let it ride a few days and not try to pile on 

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