31 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Most of the time you get a low risk return, which is why 29 other teams didn't talk him in to coming over.

If you signed an mlb free agent for that much you'd be practically guaranteed it. But I look at the Rays and see a team that just rolled their way to a pennant with a roster full of low risk acquisitions. It all comes down to whether the organization determines he's good enough or not. It would basically be a depth signing. I'd rather if the Sox are investing serious resources in a player it goes into the pitching staff where its actually needed. If they do that, then the best low risk options are what they had have to consider in right. Even if the Sox were willing to pay whatever it took to get Bauer and Springer, I'd still rather put that springer money into more pitching and go with Engel and maybe a guy like Sung-Bum if the Sox think he's mlb caliber. If the Sox could sign Bauer, Springer and more pitching, I'd still go with more pitching on top of that rather than invest in springer. Right field production just isnt the nexus of future success when the Sox already have a top three offense that is on the upswing either way

Edited December 1, 20205 yr by Vulture

13 minutes ago, Vulture said:

If you signed an mlb free agent for that much you'd be practically guaranteed it. But I look at the Rays and see a team that just rolled their way to a pennant with a roster full of low risk acquisitions. It all comes down to whether the organization determines he's good enough or not. It would basically be a depth signing. I'd rather if the Sox are investing serious resources in a player it goes into the pitching staff where its actually needed. If they do that, then the best low risk options are what they had have to consider in right. Even if the Sox were willing to pay whatever it took to get Bauer and Springer, I'd still rather put that springer money into more pitching and go with Engel and maybe a guy like Sung-Bum if the Sox think he's mlb caliber. If the Sox could sign Bauer, Springer and more pitching, I'd still go with more pitching on top of that rather than invest in springer. Right field production just isnt the nexus of future success when the Sox already have a top three offense that is on the upswing either way

That's a long way of saying no one else was interested in the guy, even the Tampa Rays.

 

3 hours ago, Vulture said:

If you signed an mlb free agent for that much you'd be practically guaranteed it. But I look at the Rays and see a team that just rolled their way to a pennant with a roster full of low risk acquisitions. It all comes down to whether the organization determines he's good enough or not. It would basically be a depth signing. I'd rather if the Sox are investing serious resources in a player it goes into the pitching staff where its actually needed. If they do that, then the best low risk options are what they had have to consider in right. Even if the Sox were willing to pay whatever it took to get Bauer and Springer, I'd still rather put that springer money into more pitching and go with Engel and maybe a guy like Sung-Bum if the Sox think he's mlb caliber. If the Sox could sign Bauer, Springer and more pitching, I'd still go with more pitching on top of that rather than invest in springer. Right field production just isnt the nexus of future success when the Sox already have a top three offense that is on the upswing either way

Since you used the Rays as your example, no, it comes down to whether the organization has the ABILITY to determine if a FA is good or not, and does so CORRECTLY. Rays, Sox, not equal. 

 

 

Edited December 2, 20205 yr by Orlando

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

 

 

Damn Padres 

2 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

 

 

Please surprise me Sox and u all know who I'm talking about !

Rosario has had good success against some of the top pitchers in the AL Central. If they deem he can play RF, I wouldn’t mind him.

1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Please surprise me Sox and u all know who I'm talking about !

Arrieta after an offseason of Pilates?

Is Rosario any better than Adam Engel at this point? He does bat lefty, but that would be an expensive platoon partner for Adam.

5 minutes ago, fathom said:

Arrieta after an offseason of Pilates?

Ha No and I won't give u any hints cuz I know u know !

 

1 minute ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

Is Rosario any better than Adam Engel at this point? He does bat lefty, but that would be an expensive platoon partner for Adam.

Yes he hit RHP very well last year.  I think he’d be a very good platoon partner and someone you wouldn’t have to give multiple years to if you claim him.

1 minute ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

Is Rosario any better than Adam Engel at this point? He does bat lefty, but that would be an expensive platoon partner for Adam.

I don't think anyone will bite on making a claim including the Sox. Just add him to the pile of free agents out there Twins.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Yes he hit RHP very well last year.  I think he’d be a very good platoon partner and someone you wouldn’t have to give multiple years to if you claim him.

I thought if u make a waiver claim on him  you're liable for his Arb salary ?

Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I thought if u make a waiver claim on him  you're liable for his Arb salary ?

Yes but just one season. Who knows if Joc is trying to get two years, etc.

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Yes he hit RHP very well last year.  I think he’d be a very good platoon partner and someone you wouldn’t have to give multiple years to if you claim him.

I'm not against the idea of an Engel/Rosario platoon, I'm just saying at nearly $10M, Rosario would be a very expensive platoon. I think the Twins end up bringing him back for cheaper.

5 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

Is Rosario any better than Adam Engel at this point? He does bat lefty, but that would be an expensive platoon partner for Adam.

45 HR last 2 seasons. For a fraction of Springer's cost? I'd jump on him (IF nontendered). A platoon of him and Engel should work.

Just now, fathom said:

Yes but just one season. Who knows if Joc is trying to get two years, etc.

I don't see it happening in my crystal ball or in my tarots cards. FA Hmmmaybe.

Man we didn’t see all this activity on twitter last week. Must be picking up a bit. 

Edited December 2, 20205 yr by maloney.adam

1 minute ago, maloney.adam said:

Man we didn’t see all this activity last week. All of a sudden it’s picking up a bit.

Of course non tender day is tomorrow.

3 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

I'm not against the idea of an Engel/Rosario platoon, I'm just saying at nearly $10M, Rosario would be a very expensive platoon. I think the Twins end up bringing him back for cheaper.

Twins don’t want him back

I’m fine with Rosario if and only if they spend big money on a pitcher *cough Bauer cough*

7 minutes ago, fathom said:

Twins don’t want him back

 

1 minute ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

 

We haven't heard anything about Rodon or Mazara being put on waivers so it's very very likely they get non-tendered which most of figured anyway.

22 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

Is Rosario any better than Adam Engel at this point? He does bat lefty, but that would be an expensive platoon partner for Adam.

He’d be substantially better against RHP than Adam would be.