Just now, southsider2k5 said:

And FWIW, Fox already called AZ for Biden.  If you believe that, Biden literally needs one more of any of the remaining states besides AK.

COVID may have been the deciding factor after all. Nevada and Vegas especially got hit worse than any other state due to it's sole reliance on tourists. SO many lost their jobs and houses.

24 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said:

Your take is about as dogmatic as saying Reagan wasn't a capitalist because he believed in some minimal regulation. Bernie is a Socialist. That's fantastic. We need more like him. Socialism has a ton of value, especially as we move into the age of automation. 

What ideas do you have to help workers who are impacted by automation?

1 minute ago, The Beast said:

What ideas do you have to help workers who are impacted by automation?

Redefine workers. Late stage capitalism can't exist in an automated world. 

Magic mushrooms legalized in Oregon.

Did Eminem swing the election?

Just now, Dick Allen said:

Magic mushrooms legalized in Oregon.

More importantly decriminalization for personal use for everything else. 

6 minutes ago, The Beast said:

What ideas do you have to help workers who are impacted by automation?

Living in a decimated rust belt town, this is a real thing.  Towns have to figure out how to reconfigure themselves for a 21st century workforce, as well as how to retrain a 1970's workforce for jobs that exist today.

This

Bovada all of the way to -800 for Biden.

Also odds on PA is -300 Biden, and -650 in Nevada.  Again either of those come in, and its over.

Was the Favre bump in Minnesota or Wisconsin?

4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Bovada all of the way to -800 for Biden.

I can't believe it was ever so reversed last night, just because of Florida and small samples of midwestern votes. I've never made a bet in my life but I'm regretting not jumping on Biden +550 (or whatever it was)

Just now, Jose Abreu said:

I can't believe it was ever so reversed last night, just because of Florida and small samples of midwestern votes. I've never made a bet in my life but I'm regretting not jumping on Biden +550 (or whatever it was)

Money flying around based on timing of past elections.

1 minute ago, Texsox said:

Was the Favre bump in Minnesota or Wisconsin?

If I'm remembering correctly, his bump was very unimpressive.

3 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

I can't believe it was ever so reversed last night, just because of Florida and small samples of midwestern votes. I've never made a bet in my life but I'm regretting not jumping on Biden +550 (or whatever it was)

The top I saw on Trump was -600.  Could have been higher, but that was what I remember seeing.

22 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

Seems extreme to me but ok, I guess they should continue running out old white centrists and hope for the best

Well first of all an old white centrist seems to have a good shot at knocking off the worst disaster in our country’s leadership history. While they had advantages of incumbency. And violated the law tons by using government resources to campaign. So let’s not undersell that.

But you want a way to change that, whether he said it for real or or, go to the purported FDR quote - “I agree with everything you said. Now make me do it.” https://www.representconsumers.org/2009/09/15/the-real-story-behind-make-him-do-it/

That kind of change takes time in this country especially and doesn’t start at the top.

Much different feel to things now than last night.  Once this is over and (if) Biden wins, Trump is going to go apeshit on Twitter.

13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Living in a decimated rust belt town, this is a real thing.  Towns have to figure out how to reconfigure themselves for a 21st century workforce, as well as how to retrain a 1970's workforce for jobs that exist today.

Well the other answer to reviving towns like that is immigration.

3 minutes ago, Big Hurtin said:

If I'm remembering correctly, his bump was very unimpressive.

I think all those concussions took a toll

4 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

I can't believe it was ever so reversed last night, just because of Florida and small samples of midwestern votes. I've never made a bet in my life but I'm regretting not jumping on Biden +550 (or whatever it was)

+about 320ish was the peak

Florida was scary, but felt possible.

I couldn't have been more wrong anyway; I said no way he wins without PA and it looks like he might. Shows that the reason for the bet might be awful, but the result could be glorious.

Assuming Biden wins, you have to wonder what is next for the Trumps. I don’t think Donald will go to jail, but I think he will have tons of legal trouble and wouldn’t be surprised if he threw some Trump Org exec or even Eric under the bus to save him a trip to Rikers. I think he may try a TV or radio talk show, but he seems way too lazy and probably will quickly lose interest. I think Don JR. Is on the Sarah Palin career path. Will probably be a darling at Fox News or OAN for a couple of years before the seemingly drug fueled rants get old and it’s time to move on. Jared and Ivanka will move somewhere. They will get divorced in a couple years and will request privacy at that very difficult time. Melania will do what she always does. Tending to Barron and Melania.

5 minutes ago, hogan873 said:

Much different feel to things now than last night.  Once this is over and (if) Biden wins, Trump is going to go apeshit on Twitter.

Said weeks ago, the world isn't ready for lame duck trump.

2 minutes ago, Tony said:

Think we found @poppysox

 

That was legit funny.

27 minutes ago, mqr said:

AP has also yet to retract

 

2 minutes ago, Tony said:

Think we found @poppysox

 

Trump would call him a patriot.

1 minute ago, Tony said:

From a pure business standpoint, I would create a subscription model service for a digital "TrumpTV" with a bunch of supporters in the Trump orbit complaining about Biden, where the country is headed, blah blah blah. Based on what we saw in this election, there is absolutely a base that would subscribe, and you could do it pretty cheaply...

That doesn’t cover a billion dollars of loans though.