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MLB 2020-21 off season catch all

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Moments of magic will glow in the night
All fears of the forest are gone
But when the morning breaks they're swept away by
golden drops of dawn, of changes.

- Phil Ochs

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3 minutes ago, Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm said:

"Good Representation is vital."

Yikes.

Why do people still follow that guy?  

I mean is it though? Markets develop based on need + supply and demand. A good agent may make a difference in terms of knowing how and when to time a market --- aka Carlos Santana signing that deal with the Royals early knowing it was going to be his best. Or Smyly. But someone of Bauer's caliber? That market will develop regardless - just happens to be a slow market because of the uncertainties due to Covid, fans, etc. 

 

Also if there was any year for Bauer to back up his 1 year deal statements this would be it. Baseball payrolls have a chance to be wildly different in 2022 or 2023. A team should get creative and offer like a 5 year deal where 4 of the years are options haha. 

15 hours ago, bmags said:

Not to be confused with actual talent, but I kinda feel like the giants are the most interesting team in baseball. They are operating just way differently than I’d expect.

I expected them to try too. 

1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

I expected them to try too. 

That's the thing. Zaidi took over this aging, underperforming team in a huge market. Everyone expected them to tear it to the studs.

And he just kinda doesn't? They just targeted players they thought their better coaching could turn around. Work on drafting and scouting better. Helps he probably has strong backing of owner, but it seems like they are just focused as a front office at learning how to do things well, and trusting that when they start  really rolling they'll be able to keep finding these players they are good at maximizing the value on.

I mean most exciting parts about Katz now isn't even Giolito, it's that he worked on that San Fran pitching coach staff.

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22 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

Makes the Eaton deal look even better.

22 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

The Sox should have done this than sign Eaton.

23 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

The Sox should have done this than sign Eaton.

Apart from the shortened season this year... Grossman has never had a year better than any of Eatons.

Cruz to Padres would just be unfair. Wonder if Twins go after Schwarber.

33 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

The Sox should have done this than sign Eaton.

Yep, though still prefer Bradley Jr. for his fielding versatility.

bWAR

2017 Grossman 0.9 vs. Eaton 0.3

2018 Grossman 1.7 vs. Eaton 1.1

2019 Eaton 1.5 vs. Grossman 1.0

2020 Grossman 1.2 vs. Eaton -0.7

Grossman $10M (2 yrs)  vs. Eaton $8M (1) or $15.5M (2 yrs).

Jake Cave (3.0 bWAR) outperformed Eaton (1.9). The offer to Eaton was ludicrous.

 

 

 

 

Grossman doesn’t have the arm for RF. That’s why he has hardly ever played there.

31 minutes ago, fathom said:

Cruz to Padres would just be unfair. Wonder if Twins go after Schwarber.

I wonder if the WS will go after Schwarber.

1 hour ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

 

 

Seems like a pretty good deal for Treinen.

17 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

That just seems unfair, considering they're loaded at literally every other position. How many MVPs and CYAs do they have on that team?

 

 

54 minutes ago, Dam8610 said:

 

Well Heyman didn't mention that Kahnle is going to miss most of if not all of 2021.

8 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Well Heyman didn't mention that Kahnle is going to miss most of if not all of 2021.

Them getting Trienen back and adding Hand on top of what they already had seems unfair.

Sugano has apparently decided to pass on joining the American nightmare and is reportedly returning to the NPB. His posting deadline passed at 5 pm.

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