December 7, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, bmags said: That's not what he said, he said the league told teams to proceed as if it won't happen. Just a matter of league and players union continuing their horrible negotiations. In other words, NL owners don't want to pay for an additional position player this year; which is the word coming from NL baseball people, that there will be no DH next year. Slash, slash, slash....
December 7, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, bmags said: That's not what he said, he said the league told teams to proceed as if it won't happen. Just a matter of league and players union continuing their horrible negotiations. But if that’s how NL teams are operating, then it should push more players to the AL (Cruz)
December 7, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: I would have to imagine this would push Ozuna to the AL as well. On a long term deal it should. Rangers make a lot of sense there.
December 7, 20205 yr 14 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: Most of JBJ's career he's been a black hole offensively. Isn't that what we're trying to solve? His typical season outside of the 3 outliers or so are a bit better than Mazara this year. 3 is not an outlier, thats a pattern.
December 7, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, beautox said: 3 is not an outlier, thats a pattern. 2020 is the only year in the last four he hasn't been absolute dogshit at the plate.
December 7, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: 2020 is the only year in the last four he hasn't been absolute dogshit at the plate. He's been ok against Righties in his career (average). If you use Engel/Leury against LHP starters, what you are banking on isn't insane offense (though it could happen), it's he would be an insane RF. I don't know that that is a bad idea. I'd prefer joc because he also should be pretty good in RF, it has graded out as his best position in OAA the last several years. But I'm ok sacrificing getting plus offense in RF if it means great defense, and I think Joc should be good next year but it may not happen
December 7, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said: Not Sox related, but the Reds making moves Iglesias could be a nice buy-low...but he's been awful and the reds have plenty of support to turn around pitchers. I don't blame them for not wanting to pay arb for an underperforming closer, where they will make too much.
December 7, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, bmags said: He's been ok against Righties in his career (average). If you use Engel/Leury against LHP starters, what you are banking on isn't insane offense (though it could happen), it's he would be an insane RF. I don't know that that is a bad idea. I'd prefer joc because he also should be pretty good in RF, it has graded out as his best position in OAA the last several years. But I'm ok sacrificing getting plus offense in RF if it means great defense, and I think Joc should be good next year but it may not happen Could you imagine the confusion if JBJ were the RF and Brantley were the LF/DH? Woof. It's already annoying. I think JBJ ends up somewhere where he can play CF and everyday though. Joc, Brantley, Quintana, Richards and Colome or another closer sounds like a decent offseason. Edited December 7, 20205 yr by Jack Parkman
December 7, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Iglesias could be a nice buy-low...but he's been awful and the reds have plenty of support to turn around pitchers. I don't blame them for not wanting to pay arb for an underperforming closer, where they will make too much. Iglesias was great last year. Reds might as well blow it up.
December 7, 20205 yr Just now, fathom said: Iglesias was great last year. Reds might as well blow it up. I thought they demoted him last year? Was that 2 years ago?
December 7, 20205 yr 43 minutes ago, bmags said: I thought they demoted him last year? Was that 2 years ago? Thinking of Neris on the Phillies? He was demoted. Iglesias bounced back this year. He had a high ERA in 2019.
December 7, 20205 yr 46 minutes ago, bmags said: I thought they demoted him last year? Was that 2 years ago? He had a bad first few weeks but then was great. All I know is he made the Cubs righties look ridiculous in save situations.
December 7, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, ChiSoxJon said: How high was he? https://tht.fangraphs.com/garcia-to-the-white-sox/ Fangraphs had Reed at #4 at the time. Edited December 7, 20205 yr by PolishPrince34
December 7, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: TIFWIW This sounds a lot like 4 and 95 over 5 and 115.
December 7, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: TIFWIW I always got the sense if Portillos had a source, it was on the contract side. This would be a free agent likely.
December 7, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: It’s gotta be Joc, right? You would think, but at this point who knows if they shock the world and sign Ozuna or Brantley. We’ve all kind of glossed over the Brantley tidbit by Passan. Edited December 7, 20205 yr by fathom
December 7, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: This sounds a lot like 4 and 95 over 5 and 115. I would say it sounds more like a 3/80 or 2/60 type of offer reading between the lines. He already has multiple 4 year offers on the record and is looking for 5.
December 7, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: It’s gotta be Joc, right? A Joc/Engel platoon in RF would be nice. Would also free up money for pitching. Provided the team plans on spending...
December 7, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: It’s gotta be Joc, right? Yep and if he's right I'm glad they are trying to finalize the deal now rather than get slow played and burned again. Just get it done so we can move on to other positions (SP) with some cost certainty as to what has been used up vs what is left budget wise
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