3 hours ago, CentralChamps21 said:

I guess if Rodon gets and rejects the QO then I'd do it because the picks even out, but I don't like giving up draft picks. They're really valuable.

This team is competing, not rebuilding. To hell with worry about losing draft picks. Sign players to win now. 

2 hours ago, bmags said:

I don’t see how it tracks that they are okay picking up a Kimbrel option in order to trade but they wouldn’t do same with Rodon even if they didn’t want to keep him.

Its a one year deal. Guys like Smyly were getting 11 last year on a lot less results the previous year. I don’t see an issue moving that.

Can’t trade Rodon until June if he accepts the QO without his consent.

1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Rodon was one of the best pitchers in baseball. Not enough innings but he was worth 5 fWAR. Are we just assuming that Kopech replicates that because I’m certainly not. 

Rodon was awesome. But the Sox need someone that will be awesome in October more so than May and June. Does anyone feel confident that will happen with him?

And for Kopech, no...you have to look at him as a #4 and consider anything beyond that a bonus.  

I've been saying since the Sox were eliminated that they need to work on acquiring a TOR starter or starter with TOR potential soon, and if you need to dangle Andrew Vaughn  towards that, then you consider that IMO.

14 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Can’t trade Rodon until June if he accepts the QO without his consent.

How can he accpet the QO without his consent?

17 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said:

How can he accpet the QO without his consent?

If Rodon accepts the QO, the Sox can’t trade Rodon until June unless he agrees to a trade.

4 hours ago, CentralChamps21 said:

I like Conforto but no way I give up a draft pick to sign him.

You've........seen...how this organization does in the draft, right?

2 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

You've........seen...how this organization does in the draft, right?

Ah, so without his consent is modifying the trade, not the acceptance of the QO.

Confirmed players being extended a QO:

• Nick Castellanos, Reds
• Michael Conforto, Mets
• Freddie Freeman, Braves
• Robbie Ray, Blue Jays
• Corey Seager, Dodgers
• Marcus Semien, Blue Jays
• Trevor Story, Rockies
• Noah Syndergaard, Mets

Other players that could receive one:

• Carlos Correa, Astros (will 100% get one)
• Jon Gray, Rockies
• Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers
• Carlos Rodón, White Sox
• Eduardo Rodriguez, Red Sox
• Chris Taylor, Dodgers
• Justin Verlander, Tigers

Less than three hours to go!  The longer this drags, the less convinced they will QO Rodon.

9 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said:

Ah, so without his consent is modifying the trade, not the acceptance of the QO.

Yes, the idea is you can’t turn around and trade a guy who accepts the QO right away.  The power shifts to player, at least until mid-season.

Hahn already said at his presser that they want Rodon but will see how his market plays out. Doesn't sound like he will get the QO if that is indeed true, because I think he'd accept it. 

4 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:

Hahn already said at his presser that they want Rodon but will see how his market plays out. Doesn't sound like he will get the QO if that is indeed true, because I think he'd accept it. 

I kind of read it the same way, but Hahn speaks lawyer so hard to be too certain about anything he says.

30 minutes to the deadline and not a word on Rodon yet…

I have a feeling half the board is going to riot in 15 minutes.

16 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

30 minutes to the deadline and not a word on Rodon yet…

 

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I have a feeling half the board is going to riot in 15 minutes.

Deadline is 4pm, not 3pm.

7 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said:

 

Deadline is 4pm, not 3pm.

Whoops, I’m traveling through Indiana right now and didn’t realize I wasn’t on Central time.  Looks like we got another hour to go.

30 minutes to the deadline and no news yet. 

4 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

30 minutes to the deadline and no news yet. 

Wonder if they’ve been negotiating on a longer contract offer.

Hmm. How many teams have his full medical report? And that one doesn't seem interested. 

Updated list:

Confirmed players being extended a QO:

• Nick Castellanos, Reds
• Michael Conforto, Mets
• Freddie Freeman, Braves
• Robbie Ray, Blue Jays
• Corey Seager, Dodgers
• Marcus Semien, Blue Jays
• Trevor Story, Rockies
• Noah Syndergaard, Mets
• Carlos Correa, Astros
• Chris Taylor, Dodgers

Other players that could receive one:

• Jon Gray, Rockies
• Carlos Rodón, White Sox
• Eduardo Rodriguez, Red Sox
• Justin Verlander, Tigers

Edited November 7, 20214 yr by Chicago White Sox

4 hours ago, ron883 said:

This team is competing, not rebuilding. To hell with worry about losing draft picks. Sign players to win now. 

Exactly. 

Taylor getting a QO hurts as I can’t see him not accepting it.

 

The deadline has passed...End of the Rodon era it appears. Unless a long term contract is worked out.

Edited November 7, 20214 yr by maloney.adam

Just now, maloney.adam said:

The deadline has passed...End of the Rodon era it appears.

I’d give it a few minutes.

5 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

 

Nah - they’ll bring him back with a bunch of incentive based items.