Edited November 7, 20214 yr by CWSpalehoseCWS

 

Rodon didn't get one per Passan.

 

Just now, Dick Allen said:

Rodon didn't get one per Passan.

Opt into Kimbrel and don’t offer a QO to Rodon. They’re already screwing up the off-season.

I might be the only one happy they didn’t QO Rodon. I don’t trust him at all to remain healthy into a postseason series.

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Whoops, I’m traveling through Indiana right now and didn’t realize I wasn’t on Central time.  Looks like we got another hour to go.

You asked, and I provided my estimate for the 2022 OD Payroll.

Do you have one at this point?

 

 

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

 

Iglesias getting one is great news for the Kimbrel market.

Just now, fathom said:

I might be the only one happy they didn’t QO Rodon. I don’t trust him at all to remain healthy into a postseason series.

I am not upset by it.

1 minute ago, South Side Hit Men said:

You asked, and I provided my estimate for the 2022 OD Payroll.

Do you have one at this point?

 

I’d guess somewhere in the $175M to $180M range.

1 minute ago, hi8is said:

Opt into Kimbrel and don’t offer a QO to Rodon. They’re already screwing up the off-season.

They know more about Rodons shoulder than anyone. If he throws 200 innings and is a Cy contender, the Sox should "re imagine" their front office. I am guessing he is a part time rotation guy.

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

I might be the only one happy they didn’t QO Rodon. I don’t trust him at all to remain healthy into a postseason series.

If they’re passing on him to pursue a different starter then I’m 100% cool with this as I’m not optimistic he holds up for an entire season.  If this is a sign of a tight budget, then that’s problematic.  For now, I’m assuming it’s the former rather than the latter.

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

I might be the only one happy they didn’t QO Rodon. I don’t trust him at all to remain healthy into a postseason series.

He also won't get a long term deal or 18 million for the 22 season. 

Would love to bring back Rodon on a one year + option deal that pays him more if he hits a certain amount of innings and pitches in the playoffs

1 minute ago, BigHurt3515 said:

Would love to bring back Rodon on a one year + option deal that pays him more if he hits a certain amount of innings and pitches in the playoffs

He should get the most guaranteed money he can get for the most amount of years

Rodon will be a Ray

3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

They know more about Rodons shoulder than anyone. If he throws 200 innings and is a Cy contender, the Sox should "re imagine" their front office. I am guessing he is a part time rotation guy.

I think the problem is Carlos was going to take the QO if extended.  I get people loved what he gave us when healthy (so did I), but dude has a terrible track record of health.  As long as they take the $18.5M and reinvest it into another pitcher I’m good here.

Just now, TheTruth05 said:

Rodon will be a Ray

Astros or Giants

Edited November 7, 20214 yr by fathom

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

If they’re passing on him to pursue a different starter then I’m 100% cool with this as I’m not optimistic he holds up for an entire season.  If this is a sign of a tight budget, then that’s problematic.  For now, I’m assuming it’s the former rather than the latter.

I agree. I’m not going to make rash judgements on a situation we don’t know all the details on. Want to let this play out, see what happens. 
 

But…if they make a few minor adjustments, I’ll be disappointed. They need to make a few key moves, not just band-aids. Act like you want to win a World Series and not just win a shitty division. 

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I think the problem is Carlos was going to take the QO if extended.  I get people loved what he gave us when healthy (so did I), but dude has a terrible track record of health.  As long as they take the $18.5M and reinvest it into another pitcher I’m good here.

They can also use it towards a second baseman or a right fielder because if they plug in Kopech in the rotation and they don’t trade Keuchel, you have Giolito, Lynn, Cease, Kopech and Keuchel as the starting five.

Edited November 7, 20214 yr by maloney.adam

1 minute ago, Tony said:

I agree. I’m not going to make rash judgements on a situation we don’t know all the details on. Want to let this play out, see what happens. 
 

But…if they make a few minor adjustments, I’ll be disappointed. They need to make a few key moves, not just band-aids. Act like you want to win a World Series and not just win a shitty division. 

This is exactly where I’m at. Let’s see if they’re serious about this window or not 

If the Sox thought there was a really good chance Rodon could duplicate his 2021 season in 2022 I am sure they would have offered it.

4 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

They can also use it towards a second baseman or a right fielder because if they plug in Kopech in the rotation and they don’t trade Keuchel, you have Giolito, Lynn, Cease, Kopech and Keuchel as the starting five.

With zero depth. Kopech will be on an innings limit and Keuchel sucks

Just now, BigHurt3515 said:

With zero depth. Kopech will be on an innings limit and Keuchel sucks

Lopez will be relied on and they will sign another starter I’m sure