Just now, Sarava said:

ewww. That would be a gross off-season.

Would RH keeping Kimbrel make it better?

3 minutes ago, Two-Gun Pete said:

Would RH keeping Kimbrel make it better?

No that would make it worse

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3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I don’t know what that means and how it relates to Hahn making a trade that would never happen.

Schmuck: Noun. A foolish or contemptible person. 

Used in a sentence: Hahn is the same schmuck that traded away Tatis and a king's ransom for a bad season of Jeff Samardzija. 

Just now, Sarava said:

No that would make it worse

Well, I was told that this roster desperately needed that closer depth, so who am I to argue?

 

In Rick Hahn we trust, right?

18 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

What boss is going out and saying these guys suck, and we need better players?

What the hell are you talking about? They don't even have a 2nd basemen. Is this person that doesn't exist going to be offended?

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

Schmuck: Noun. A foolish or contemptible person. 

Used in a sentence: Hahn is the same schmuck that traded away Tatis and a king's ransom for a bad season of Jeff Samardzija. 

Ahhh yes so let’s stress about a series of awful moves that are surely never going to happen. Makes sense. 

1 minute ago, Two-Gun Pete said:

Well, I was told that this roster desperately needed that closer depth, so who am I to argue?

 

In Rick Hahn we trust, right?

They didn't need a closer, let alone a bad one. But we're not here to b**** about last year. I want some improvements to this year's team.

2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Ahhh yes so let’s stress about a series of awful moves that are surely never going to happen. Makes sense. 

Hahn has always been taken to the cleaners on trades when he's been a buyer. 

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20 minutes ago, Two-Gun Pete said:

I'm now convinced that this will be what  Hahn ends up doing:

Tepera 2/$10MM

Jorge Soler 3/$45MM

Trade Vaughn and Sheets for Bassitt

Roll with a Leury/Mendick platoon at 2B.

Book it.

You nailed the Tepera call IMO.

Honest question, if we can’t get anything good and his value is at an all-time low, wouldn’t it make sense to keep Kimbrel and hope he bounces back? 
That way he has more value during the season. 

5 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Schmuck: Noun. A foolish or contemptible person. 

Used in a sentence: Hahn is the same schmuck that traded away Tatis and a king's ransom for a bad season of Jeff Samardzija. 

Get a grip dude.  There is plenty of reason to be critical of past moves but that doesn’t mean those correlate in any way to moves in the present.  

Just now, Sarava said:

They didn't need a closer, let alone a bad one. But we're not here to b**** about last year. I want some improvements to this year's team.

I agree: at the TDL, when Eloy/Robert/Engel were all on or just coming off the IL, and Eaton was cut, I was told that Kimbrel would solve this problem.

Now, with Eloy/Robert/Engel all healthy, why WOULDNT you just double down on Kimbrel?

In any case, RH said that they're ready to roll with what they got, but if they add WS Champion Jorge Soler to this team, would you not be pleased?

6 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Schmuck: Noun. A foolish or contemptible person. 

Used in a sentence: Hahn is the same schmuck that traded away Tatis and a king's ransom for a bad season of Jeff Samardzija. 

What’s funny is not one of the prospects that Hahn gave up in the Shark trade were top 100 prospects, yet everyone here acts like they were surefire stars.  It was far from a king’s ransom at the time.

1 minute ago, soxfan3530 said:

Honest question, if we can’t get anything good and his value is at an all-time low, wouldn’t it make sense to keep Kimbrel and hope he bounces back? 
That way he has more value during the season. 

I think Kimbrel is garbage and I want him gone.

4 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Hahn has always been taken to the cleaners on trades when he's been a buyer. 

Because our pro scouting was terrible at the time and that part of the organization has gone through massive changes.

The Yiddish definition of schmuck is much more pejorative.  It literally and figuratively means a prick (penis)

In more common usage it can just mean a "dope" 

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

What’s funny is not one of the prospects that Hahn gave up in the Shark trade were top 100 prospects, yet everyone here acts like they were surefire stars.  It was far from a king’s ransom at the time.

I agree: its totally unfair to criticize RH. That was a good trade. 

1 minute ago, soxfan3530 said:

Honest question, if we can’t get anything good and his value is at an all-time low, wouldn’t it make sense to keep Kimbrel and hope he bounces back? 
That way he has more value during the season. 

I don’t think they keep him no matter what.  The return is less important than clearing the salary IMO. 

Just now, Sarava said:

I think Kimbrel is garbage and I want him gone.

Except his career proves he’s not. 

10 minutes ago, hi8is said:

“It’s been like 24 hours since the lockout ended and the White Sox haven’t done anything still!”

Welcome back to Soxtalk.

I love it! 

2 minutes ago, gogosox1959 said:

The Yiddish definition of schmuck is much more pejorative.  It literally and figuratively means a prick (penis)

In more common usage it can just mean a "dope" 

Yep. 

I also know what the yiddish definition of putz is. 

Just now, soxfan3530 said:

Except his career proves he’s not. 

He's a hall of fame closer, but he's not the same guy that dominated for all those years in Boston and Atlanta. The last 3 seasons he has been hot garbage outside of an amazing first half with the Cubs last year.

6 minutes ago, poppysox said:

You nailed the Tepera call IMO.

2/$10 mil would be a steal 

Just now, Sarava said:

He's a hall of fame closer, but he's not the same guy that dominated for all those years in Boston and Atlanta. The last 3 seasons he has been hot garbage outside of an amazing first half with the Cubs last year.

And it's gone..... a home run. 

I completely agree with you.