June 1, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: The Sox have had many bad seasons over the years, but only four teams 12 + games under .500 entering June. 2023 23-35 2018 16-37 (62-100) 1989 18-33 (69-92) 1948 9-26 (51-101-2) Please fire Rick Hahn to kick off June, and give White Sox fans hope for the future. So the 1989 team gives one hope, lol....minus Ventura, McDowell, Frank Thomas, Wilson Alvarez and Alex Fernandez.
June 1, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: The Sox have had many bad seasons over the years, but only four teams 12 + games under .500 entering June. 2023 23-35 2018 16-37 (62-100) 1989 18-33 (69-92) 1948 9-26 (51-101-2) Please fire Rick Hahn to kick off June, and give White Sox fans hope for the future. I feel like a lot of people on this board are still waiting for them to flip a switch. face it, it's over the sooner you realize it, the less upset you'll be everytime they lose and you won't be asking "How could this happen?"
June 1, 20232 yr They just had Season Ticketholder Appreciation Week. They gave them a free bag a popcorn and a discounted ticket to parade around the field one game. If the really appreciated them the week would have looked like this: Monday-fired the hitting coaches Tuesday-fired Ethan Katz Wednesday- fired Pedro Grifol Thursday-fired Chris Getz Friday-fired Rick Hahn Saturday-fired KW Sunday-JR announces he has sold the team That would be appreciation.
June 1, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: They just had Season Ticketholder Appreciation Week. They gave them a free bag a popcorn and a discounted ticket to parade around the field one game. If the really appreciated them the week would have looked like this: Monday-fired the hitting coaches Tuesday-fired Ethan Katz Wednesday- fired Pedro Grifol Thursday-fired Chris Getz Friday-fired Rick Hahn Saturday-fired KW Sunday-JR announces he has sold the team That would be appreciation. it would actually be very on-brand if the Sox fired Grifol, they churn through managers faster than any other team in baseball.
June 1, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, joejoesox said: I feel like a lot of people on this board are still waiting for them to flip a switch. face it, it's over the sooner you realize it, the less upset you'll be everytime they lose and you won't be asking "How could this happen?" 58 games is a good indicator of how things will be. Baseball is a weird game, and many things can happen. Fans can hope if they want, but I don't anticipate great things for this team. They have too many games like the last one against the Angels.
June 1, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, joejoesox said: it would actually be very on-brand if the Sox fired Grifol, they churn through managers faster than any other team in baseball. The White Sox are the only team with three full time managers (Renteria, La Russa & Grifol) since the cancelled COVID season. Four if you also count the interim stint of Miguel Cairo. Gave proof through the night That Rick Hahn was still there Teams with two permanent managers since 2020 (11): Detroit (Gardenhire, Hinch) Florida (Mattingly, Schumaker) Kansas City (Matheny, Quataro) Los Angeles A. L. (Maddon, Nevin) New York N. L. (Rojas, Showalter) Philadelphia (Girardi, Thomson) 2022 N. L. Pennant Oakland (Melvin, Kotsay) Saint Louis (Shildt, Marmol) San Diego (Tingler, Melvin) Texas (Woodward, Bochy) Toronto (Montoyo & Schneider) Teams with managerial continuity since 2020 (18): 2013 Cleveland (Terry Francona) 2016 A. L. Pennant 2015 Milwaukee (Craig Counsell) 2015 Tampa Bay (Kevin Cash) 2020 A. L. Pennant 2016 Atlanta (Brian Snitker) 2021 World Series Champions 2016 Los Angeles N. L. (Dave Roberts) 2020 World Series Champions; 2017 & 2018 N. L. Pennants 2016 Seattle (Scott Servais) 2017 Arizona (Torey Lovullo) 2017 Colorado (Bud Black) 2018 Boston (Alex Cora) 2018 World Series Champions 2018 New York A. L. (Aaron Boone) 2018 Washington (Dave Martinez) 2019 World Series Champions 2019 Baltimore (Brandon Hyde) 2019 Cincinnati (David Bell) 2019 Minnesota (Rocco Baldelli) 2020 Chicago N. L. (David Ross) 2020 Houston (Dusty Baker) 2022 World Series Champions; 2021 A. L. Pennant 2020 Pittsburgh (Derek Shelton) 2020 San Francisco (Gabe Kapler) Note - Interim managers not included in the above, be it for health, suspension or managers bridging the gap between two full time managers. Edited June 1, 20232 yr by South Side Hit Men
June 1, 20232 yr Author We currently have the third worst record in the MLB. I’d have to imagine our farm system is also bottom five. Imagine the incompetence required to have built such a s%*#-show of an organization from top to bottom. Fire this clown before the 4th of July, sell your rentals before the deadline, and then hire Mike Chernoff in the off-season to fix this mess. It really isn’t that hard even if it will take some time to self correct.
June 1, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: We currently have the third worst record in the MLB. I’d have to imagine our farm system is also bottom five. Imagine the incompetence required to have built such a s%*#-show of an organization from top to bottom. Fire this clown before the 4th of July, sell your rentals before the deadline, and then hire Mike Chernoff in the off-season to fix this mess. It really isn’t that hard even if it will take some time to self correct. Also sell TA if you can get a haul for him. Especially to LAD. Get Rushing plus a near MLB ready SP prospect. The only possible "hire" that they will make is Getz....lulz.
June 1, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Also sell TA if you can get a haul for him. Especially to LAD. Get Rushing plus a near MLB ready SP prospect. The only possible "hire" that they will make is Getz....lulz. Don't think TA is going to bring back a haul at this point. Especially not from the Dodgers.
June 1, 20232 yr Author 56 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Also sell TA if you can get a haul for him. Especially to LAD. Get Rushing plus a near MLB ready SP prospect. The only possible "hire" that they will make is Getz....lulz. Sell him if you can get 90 cents on the dollar. Otherwise hold and pray he rebuilds some value. Truly sad that most of the few interesting pieces we have are playing below expectations.
June 1, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: Don't think TA is going to bring back a haul at this point. Especially not from the Dodgers. No way is Anderson bringing back a "haul." Once in a while he will show his athletic ability. But the rest of the time he looks bad defensively. Offensively, he's not doing anything. Last season he showed signs of not being the same player. This season, he's even worse. His fall is really mind-boggling.
June 1, 20232 yr Hahn literally works for the only organization where his ineptitude and poor performance doesn’t cost him his own job. Far far far better GMs have been let go with their worst seasons being Hahn’s best.
June 1, 20232 yr 39 minutes ago, MEANS said: Chicago White Sox baseball "Playing Below Expectations"™ Even better: White Sox baseball, our expectations were low, but holy s%*#.
June 1, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: Hahn literally works for the only organization where his ineptitude and poor performance doesn’t cost him his own job. Far far far better GMs have been let go with their worst seasons being Hahn’s best. The organization is rock bottom right now. So yes Hahn should be fired as well as Ken Williams. Problem is there's nobody who believes Jerry would hire the right GM to turn this around. Dombrowski is 66 and from Chicago. I doubt he'd do it but he's the only man for the franchise turnaround right now that Jerry would hire (since he knows him).
June 2, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, greg775 said: The organization is rock bottom right now. So yes Hahn should be fired as well as Ken Williams. Problem is there's nobody who believes Jerry would hire the right GM to turn this around. Dombrowski is 66 and from Chicago. I doubt he'd do it but he's the only man for the franchise turnaround right now that Jerry would hire (since he knows him). JR would never give free payroll reign to the likes of Dombrowski...who only had to operate under constraints in Montreal and Florida.
June 2, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: JR would never give free payroll reign to the likes of Dombrowski...who only had to operate under constraints in Montreal and Florida. To be fair he rebuilt the Expos farm system into one of the best in baseball and he did OK with the restrictions with the Marlins too. Edited June 2, 20232 yr by Lip Man 1
June 2, 20232 yr Royce Lewis looks like the real deal. Funny how other organizations develop their top talent and prepare them for the big leagues
June 2, 20232 yr Bump Honestly, should be pinned to the top of the board until/unless Sox at least reach 5 games under .500, unlikely as that currently seems. Edited June 2, 20232 yr by caulfield12
June 2, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Bump Honestly, should be pinned to the top of the board until/unless Sox at least reach 5 games under .500, unlikely as that currently seems. The next time they are within 5 of .500 will be Opening Day next season.
June 3, 20232 yr 27 minutes ago, joejoesox said: Can you imagine Grifol having the balls to do this I don’t know. Pedro’s first ejection he told to umpire to go f*** himself several times
June 3, 20232 yr White Sox fans complain about Grandal, but if they didn’t sign him, they almost assuredly would have extended James McCann, and most would have been thrilled. Look at his numbers since leaving the White Sox. They look like his numbers before he came to the White Sox when he was so bad the Tigers non tendered him. Now he makes quadruple what they would have had to pay him.
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