August 2, 20223 yr The sox won't re-sign Giolito, he has 1.5 years left. Rentals don't get you much, so this deadline or the offseason would be wise to send him off. His arb will make him expensive, and we need to pay for our bullpen. He's at a lower point, but has good pedigree, and has shown he can regain things quickly. What real team would go after him? Cards? Brewers? Atlanta? I don't think we could get Walker, but perhaps Masyn Wynn for when we need to trade Anderson.
August 2, 20223 yr I think selling him at this point would be a mistake, but that assumes he can come back. If they don't think he will then you absolutely sell.
August 2, 20223 yr THey probably should move him - if they could get a nice cost-controlled package. Now or in the off-season as part of the bigger retool, which better include a whole new cast of characters running / managing things.
August 2, 20223 yr Author 2 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: I'd rather try to move Lynn, even if it means eating some of his salary. Giolito actually brings back cheap talent.
August 2, 20223 yr Author 8 minutes ago, fathom said: Dodgers would be interested also, I would bet. it's a bummer my fake trade of kimbrel to dodgers for Amaya, Outman didn't go through. Pretty sure outman is better than Pollock.
August 2, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, bmags said: Giolito actually brings back cheap talent. Does he? He's been so bad this year, and the velocity is so down that I doubt he has much value. They can probably get more next year as a rental should he bounce back in performance and velocity
August 2, 20223 yr Author 6 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Does he? He's been so bad this year, and the velocity is so down that I doubt he has much value. They can probably get more next year as a rental should he bounce back in performance and velocity No they'd obviously get back more now. Also there is no guarantee he'd be better next year, obviously. And yes, he'd get back cheap talent than Lance Lynn with 2.5 more years left. This isn't hard.
August 2, 20223 yr It depends. Was there an attempt to extend him? At money that likely doesn't make sense now? Because, if so, it is pretty likely a deal never gets done prior to him being a free agent.
August 2, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, bmags said: No they'd obviously get back more now. Also there is no guarantee he'd be better next year, obviously. And yes, he'd get back cheap talent than Lance Lynn with 2.5 more years left. This isn't hard. Disagree. He probably wouldn't even return an interesting prospect right now. Just organizational filler. Giolito has zero value and Lynn has negative value Edited August 2, 20223 yr by Jack Parkman
August 2, 20223 yr Just now, Jack Parkman said: Disagree. He probably wouldn't even return an interesting prospect right now. Just organizational filler. Come on
August 2, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Come on Who wants a RHP who's not missing bats, has a 5+ ERA and can barely crack 94 mph?
August 2, 20223 yr Just now, Jack Parkman said: Who wants a RHP who's not missing bats, has a 5+ ERA and can barely crack 94 mph? Twins
August 2, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, fathom said: Come on Remember Parkman is Giolito's "biggest fan" though.
August 2, 20223 yr 33 minutes ago, almagest said: I think selling him at this point would be a mistake, but that assumes he can come back. If they don't think he will then you absolutely sell. He has no value though. A bad team won't trade for him as a rental type, and a good team isn't trading any prospects worth much for him. We in turn wouldn't trade him for a guy like Gallo.
August 2, 20223 yr Just now, SonofaRoache said: He has no value though. A bad team won't trade for him as a rental type, and a good team isn't trading any prospects worth much for him. We in turn wouldn't trade him for a guy like Gallo. That's my hesitation. You might as well hang on and hope he rebounds, unless you really don't think he will, then you take what you can get.
August 2, 20223 yr Author 2 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: He has no value though. A bad team won't trade for him as a rental type, and a good team isn't trading any prospects worth much for him. We in turn wouldn't trade him for a guy like Gallo. He's not a rental type, he has 1.5 years. He also has 3 straight years of mid-3s ERA and an xfip lower than his ERA.
August 2, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Remember Parkman is Giolito's "biggest fan" though. He needs to have an offseason like 2018-19. He's also fine if he can miss bats like he did in April and May while getting a bit of velocity back. I believe in him righting himself but I don't think it's doable mid-season.
August 2, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, bmags said: He's not a rental type, he has 1.5 years. He also has 3 straight years of mid-3s ERA and an xfip lower than his ERA. To a bad team 1.5 is a rental. That is half of this season and only next year. He hasn't been close to good this year, so no one is giving up much for him. That's just the way it works.
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