1 minute ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

When has his value ever been lower than it is right now?

Just saying it could keep going lower.  If anyone is crazy enough to give us anything for him take it.

Just now, Capn12 said:

Every season other than 2021?

That’s not how it works. He had more value in the past than he does now simply because of multiple years of team control.

1 minute ago, bmags said:

Kopech is better

Kopech is still a good pitcher even though he's not striking out the world. 

2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Exactly the same amount pretty much nobody is excited about spending on AJ Pollock.  Or $13 million if he hits his PA incentives correctly.

Exactly my point.  Already too much dead money on the roster to add yet another $12 million on top of that for a #5 starter.  Lucas is a #5 starter.

What do they do next year when Cueto is gone?  Split time between Crochet and Martin?

Good effort by yoan and eloy

1 minute ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Not really, he was cheap and had a lot of team control at that point. 

Was really close to being out of baseball. 

His slider is so bad

Elon Musk could buy the Sox and put them in a posh stadium downtown out of petty cash.

300 million dollar payrolls to bring in top tier free  agents.

if the Sox are worth 1.7 billion now, they'd be worth 4 or 5 billion in a few years. Think of the global players who would want a piece of the action.

1 minute ago, RG23SoxFan said:

Just saying it could keep going lower.  If anyone is crazy enough to give us anything for him take it.

Nobody is going to give the Sox anything of significance for him at this point. Just have to hope he turns it around next year.

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

Was really close to being out of baseball. 

Lol

Just now, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Not really, he was cheap and had a lot of team control at that point. 

He is now back to being one of the worst performances in baseball again but lacking 94-98 mph stuff.

Change just doesn't work as well off 91-93 as it does mid to high 90s with 12-15 mph differential.

Just now, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Nobody is going to give the Sox anything of significance for him at this point. Just have to hope he turns it around next year.

Pure salary dump for me.  Same with a potential Yoan trade.  Go and use that money elsewhere.

10 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said:

It's not really that crazy an ideas when considering his arbitration # is probably coming in at $12 million based on scale.

Maybe $12 million are better used elsewhere since the team all of a sudden is flooded with holes.

Hahn will put it towards more utility players and relievers.

Edited August 18, 20223 yr by Bob Sacamano

If he does return next year, will be an interesting battle with Grandal about who gets DFA first 

5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Not to trade him in the offseason at his lowest value given that next year is a contract year and he will be really motivated to bounce back.

If there's one thing Lucas doesn't lack, it's motivation.  He's trying very hard out there.

He just doesn't have the FB velocity to trick people with his change up anymore.  And his lack of a dominant breaking pitch is why he's regressed.

1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Hahn put it towards more utility players and relievers.

Hopefully Hahn is no longer making those decisions come November. 

They are teeing off on him

3 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Lol

I meant MLB, not baseball but you get the picture. 

Hey guys! What did I miss?

 

 

....oh

Just now, HOFHurt35 said:

Hopefully Hahn is no longer making those decisions come November. 

Ha I wish. But unless something happens to Jerry he is safe.

At least JR had these last three games to make some decent profits.

Will be quite fortunate to get a $165-170 million payroll next year.

Fans are not going to stand for running things back out there with LaRussa again.

Seems almost sado masochistic.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

If he does return next year, will be an interesting battle with Grandal about who gets DFA first 

With Vaughn eloy and abreu here, they can't afford to go into opening day with grandal on the roster. Just eat the salary

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

At least JR had these last three games to make some decent profits.

Will be quite fortunate to get a $165-170 million payroll next year.

Fans are not going to stand for running things back out there with LaRussa again.

Seems almost sado masochistic.

I have no idea where or how they're going to cut payroll. 

It would start with trading some of their expensive relievers and letting Gio and Abreu walk.

They should treat Grandal as the backup catcher next year. Maybe they get a bit of a bounce back when he's only playing 75 games.  

Edited August 18, 20223 yr by Jack Parkman

1 minute ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Nobody is going to give the Sox anything of significance for him at this point. Just have to hope he turns it around next year.

Sure hope as others have mentioned they aren't paying him $12 million next season.  I get what you're saying about being motivated because he is in a contract year, but I feel like he is highly motivated right now and that isn't helping.  He just hasn't been the same pitcher since the sticky stuff ban, so it seems unlikely he is returning to anything that resembles how he was before.