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2023 MLB offseason signings and rumors thread

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3 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

As bad as his bat has been, there are going to be a lot of teams interested here.

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1 minute ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

As bad as his bat has been, there are going to be a lot of teams interested here.

Yep. I just find it funny one of the players Hahn has reportedly been interested in in the past is now available and he won’t be able to land him because ya know….money

7 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said:

Yep. I just find it funny one of the players Hahn has reportedly been interested in in the past is now available and he won’t be able to land him because ya know….money

Seat at the table GM'ing!

In a vacuum, Conforto or Bellinger?

In all seriousness hopefully things start to pick up on the Sox end now that the non tenders will be all issued tonight and Hahn can get his dumpster diving started

Just now, Quin said:

In a vacuum, Conforto or Bellinger?

I'm going Belly. He's a better defender, younger, and at least is coming off a season he played.  Plus the shift moving and some extra hunger - who knows. The other thing I'd point out - he can play multiple outfield positions well (i.e., CF), so if you pivvot Robert or need to reset, it increaess flexibility. 

So yeah - I like Belly a lot. He could flame out - but I still see his value as a base runner and defender as creating a good floor.  

1 minute ago, Quin said:

In a vacuum, Conforto or Bellinger?

Bellinger has more defensive value, is a better base runner, and still hit for above average power last year. Sign me up for him.

Pretty depressing when we’re in our championship window salivating over a couple of guys who haven’t been productive in two years and can’t even afford them on a 1/$15M type deal because our owner is a cheap fucking asshole.

28 minutes ago, Quin said:

In a vacuum, Conforto or Bellinger?

I expect Conforto to cost more and that drives me to Bellinger.

If healthy, I expect Conforto to produce more.

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Pretty depressing when we’re in our championship window salivating over a couple of guys who haven’t been productive in two years and can’t even afford them on a 1/$15M type deal because our owner is a cheap fucking asshole.

Let’s be real, the cheap bastards somehow convinced us that they had a viable window  when they were never gonna pony up for a legit contender to begin with.  If they can’t or won’t spend over some bad money they never wanted to compete in the first place. 

7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Pretty depressing when we’re in our championship window salivating over a couple of guys who haven’t been productive in two years and can’t even afford them on a 1/$15M type deal because our owner is a cheap fucking asshole.

It is depressing that we all know Nimmo would solve so many issues for this team, he's going to sign a contract all 30 teams could afford without issue, and yet... there's no chance Jerry would sign off on it.

5 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Let’s be real, the cheap bastards somehow convinced us that they had a viable window  when they were never gonna pony up for a legit contender to begin with.  If they can’t or won’t spend over some bad money they never wanted to compete in the first place. 

Let's be equally real. They spent a lot of money this year. They spent more than the Astros did this year. They spent more than the Astros did in 2017. They spent more than the Nationals did in 2019. They spent more than the Braves did in 2021. They spent more than the Cubs did in 2016. They spent more than the Royals did, ever. 

They actually did spend money. They did what we wanted them to do on the total budget line. They finished 6th in payroll - the only one of those teams who was 6th in payroll was the Cubs, all of the recent "complete a rebuild then win a title" teams spent less. They actually spent money.

They did so in an unfathomably stupid way. 

14 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Let's be equally real. They spent a lot of money this year. They spent more than the Astros did this year. They spent more than the Astros did in 2017. They spent more than the Nationals did in 2019. They spent more than the Braves did in 2021. They spent more than the Cubs did in 2016. They spent more than the Royals did, ever. 

They actually did spend money. They did what we wanted them to do on the total budget line. They finished 6th in payroll - the only one of those teams who was 6th in payroll was the Cubs, all of the recent "complete a rebuild then win a title" teams spent less. They actually spent money.

They did so in an unfathomably stupid way. 

Yet seemingly have the same holes year in and year out making spending even more important because they didn’t fix the issues to begin with, yet we all know they wont

 

12 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said:

 

Makes sense. Betts can see time at 2B and CF.

24 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Let's be equally real. They spent a lot of money this year. They spent more than the Astros did this year. They spent more than the Astros did in 2017. They spent more than the Nationals did in 2019. They spent more than the Braves did in 2021. They spent more than the Cubs did in 2016. They spent more than the Royals did, ever. 

They actually did spend money. They did what we wanted them to do on the total budget line. They finished 6th in payroll - the only one of those teams who was 6th in payroll was the Cubs, all of the recent "complete a rebuild then win a title" teams spent less. They actually spent money.

They did so in an unfathomably stupid way. 

Yes, there are valid critiques for how and where they have spent.  Hahn is really bad at it.  Yet legit championship contenders find ways to fill holes despite bad money.  The Sox have already signalled that they’ve thrown up their hands and aren’t serious about improving, be it in dollars or in those making decisions. My point remains in that they aren’t serious about putting themselves on the same level. 

21 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said:

 

Is there a world where we’d trade Tim to LA?

Just now, NCsoxfan said:

Is there a world where we’d trade Tim to LA?

I certainly hope so.

2 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said:

Is there a world where we’d trade Tim to LA?

 

1 minute ago, South Side Fireworks Man said:

I certainly hope so.

But prob not.

3 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said:

Is there a world where we’d trade Tim to LA?

Not one with this FO in charge. 

54 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

It is depressing that we all know Nimmo would solve so many issues for this team, he's going to sign a contract all 30 teams could afford without issue, and yet... there's no chance Jerry would sign off on it.

Oh for sure.  He should be attainable and would be a perfect fit, but I’ve already come to terms he won’t be happening this off-season.  Not being able to afford a lesser LH OF option on a 8 figure pillow contract is a far more egregious offense.

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54 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Let's be equally real. They spent a lot of money this year. They spent more than the Astros did this year. They spent more than the Astros did in 2017. They spent more than the Nationals did in 2019. They spent more than the Braves did in 2021. They spent more than the Cubs did in 2016. They spent more than the Royals did, ever. 

They actually did spend money. They did what we wanted them to do on the total budget line. They finished 6th in payroll - the only one of those teams who was 6th in payroll was the Cubs, all of the recent "complete a rebuild then win a title" teams spent less. They actually spent money.

They did so in an unfathomably stupid way. 

They’re also cutting payroll as their competitive window is quickly coming to a close.

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

They’re also cutting payroll as their competitive window is quickly coming to a close.

At this point I will say the window has been closed until further notice 

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