CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: As bad as his bat has been, there are going to be a lot of teams interested here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: As bad as his bat has been, there are going to be a lot of teams interested here. Yep. I just find it funny one of the players Hahn has reportedly been interested in in the past is now available and he won’t be able to land him because ya know….money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said: Yep. I just find it funny one of the players Hahn has reportedly been interested in in the past is now available and he won’t be able to land him because ya know….money Seat at the table GM'ing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 In a vacuum, Conforto or Bellinger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 In all seriousness hopefully things start to pick up on the Sox end now that the non tenders will be all issued tonight and Hahn can get his dumpster diving started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just now, Quin said: In a vacuum, Conforto or Bellinger? I'm going Belly. He's a better defender, younger, and at least is coming off a season he played. Plus the shift moving and some extra hunger - who knows. The other thing I'd point out - he can play multiple outfield positions well (i.e., CF), so if you pivvot Robert or need to reset, it increaess flexibility. So yeah - I like Belly a lot. He could flame out - but I still see his value as a base runner and defender as creating a good floor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Quin said: In a vacuum, Conforto or Bellinger? Bellinger has more defensive value, is a better base runner, and still hit for above average power last year. Sign me up for him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Pretty depressing when we’re in our championship window salivating over a couple of guys who haven’t been productive in two years and can’t even afford them on a 1/$15M type deal because our owner is a cheap fucking asshole. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, Quin said: In a vacuum, Conforto or Bellinger? I expect Conforto to cost more and that drives me to Bellinger. If healthy, I expect Conforto to produce more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Pretty depressing when we’re in our championship window salivating over a couple of guys who haven’t been productive in two years and can’t even afford them on a 1/$15M type deal because our owner is a cheap fucking asshole. Let’s be real, the cheap bastards somehow convinced us that they had a viable window when they were never gonna pony up for a legit contender to begin with. If they can’t or won’t spend over some bad money they never wanted to compete in the first place. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Pretty depressing when we’re in our championship window salivating over a couple of guys who haven’t been productive in two years and can’t even afford them on a 1/$15M type deal because our owner is a cheap fucking asshole. It is depressing that we all know Nimmo would solve so many issues for this team, he's going to sign a contract all 30 teams could afford without issue, and yet... there's no chance Jerry would sign off on it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Let’s be real, the cheap bastards somehow convinced us that they had a viable window when they were never gonna pony up for a legit contender to begin with. If they can’t or won’t spend over some bad money they never wanted to compete in the first place. Let's be equally real. They spent a lot of money this year. They spent more than the Astros did this year. They spent more than the Astros did in 2017. They spent more than the Nationals did in 2019. They spent more than the Braves did in 2021. They spent more than the Cubs did in 2016. They spent more than the Royals did, ever. They actually did spend money. They did what we wanted them to do on the total budget line. They finished 6th in payroll - the only one of those teams who was 6th in payroll was the Cubs, all of the recent "complete a rebuild then win a title" teams spent less. They actually spent money. They did so in an unfathomably stupid way. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Let's be equally real. They spent a lot of money this year. They spent more than the Astros did this year. They spent more than the Astros did in 2017. They spent more than the Nationals did in 2019. They spent more than the Braves did in 2021. They spent more than the Cubs did in 2016. They spent more than the Royals did, ever. They actually did spend money. They did what we wanted them to do on the total budget line. They finished 6th in payroll - the only one of those teams who was 6th in payroll was the Cubs, all of the recent "complete a rebuild then win a title" teams spent less. They actually spent money. They did so in an unfathomably stupid way. Yet seemingly have the same holes year in and year out making spending even more important because they didn’t fix the issues to begin with, yet we all know they wont 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Sacamano Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said: Makes sense. Betts can see time at 2B and CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Let's be equally real. They spent a lot of money this year. They spent more than the Astros did this year. They spent more than the Astros did in 2017. They spent more than the Nationals did in 2019. They spent more than the Braves did in 2021. They spent more than the Cubs did in 2016. They spent more than the Royals did, ever. They actually did spend money. They did what we wanted them to do on the total budget line. They finished 6th in payroll - the only one of those teams who was 6th in payroll was the Cubs, all of the recent "complete a rebuild then win a title" teams spent less. They actually spent money. They did so in an unfathomably stupid way. Yes, there are valid critiques for how and where they have spent. Hahn is really bad at it. Yet legit championship contenders find ways to fill holes despite bad money. The Sox have already signalled that they’ve thrown up their hands and aren’t serious about improving, be it in dollars or in those making decisions. My point remains in that they aren’t serious about putting themselves on the same level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said: Is there a world where we’d trade Tim to LA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Just now, NCsoxfan said: Is there a world where we’d trade Tim to LA? I certainly hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: Is there a world where we’d trade Tim to LA? 1 minute ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: I certainly hope so. But prob not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: Is there a world where we’d trade Tim to LA? Not one with this FO in charge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: It is depressing that we all know Nimmo would solve so many issues for this team, he's going to sign a contract all 30 teams could afford without issue, and yet... there's no chance Jerry would sign off on it. Oh for sure. He should be attainable and would be a perfect fit, but I’ve already come to terms he won’t be happening this off-season. Not being able to afford a lesser LH OF option on a 8 figure pillow contract is a far more egregious offense. Edited November 19, 2022 by Chicago White Sox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 54 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Let's be equally real. They spent a lot of money this year. They spent more than the Astros did this year. They spent more than the Astros did in 2017. They spent more than the Nationals did in 2019. They spent more than the Braves did in 2021. They spent more than the Cubs did in 2016. They spent more than the Royals did, ever. They actually did spend money. They did what we wanted them to do on the total budget line. They finished 6th in payroll - the only one of those teams who was 6th in payroll was the Cubs, all of the recent "complete a rebuild then win a title" teams spent less. They actually spent money. They did so in an unfathomably stupid way. They’re also cutting payroll as their competitive window is quickly coming to a close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: They’re also cutting payroll as their competitive window is quickly coming to a close. At this point I will say the window has been closed until further notice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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