fathom Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: The Sox need 2 OFs. I doubt anyone argued that Colas would be 1 of them coming June 2023. They need a 4th outfielder as well that hits righty (assuming LF is a lefty) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Who penciled him as the opening day RF 4 months ago? I said he’d be up in early May and was told no way he’d be ready by then. FYI, this doesn't say "Opening Day RF." And most of us have said early May, sometime after they get the extra year of control. You might be talking about arguing with like, one person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, fathom said: They need a 4th outfielder as well that hits righty (assuming LF is a lefty) Yes they do. But that’ll be the scrappiest of scrap heaps in March. Probably 50/50 it’s Engel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, ChiSox59 said: Yes they do. But that’ll be the scrappiest of scrap heaps in March. Probably 50/50 it’s Engel. I’m expecting Leury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, fathom said: I’m expecting Leury That’s possible too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, Quin said: I only need 15.1 WAR - I just want him to set the record and dethrone 1923 Babe Ruth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Yes they do. But that’ll be the scrappiest of scrap heaps in March. Probably 50/50 it’s Engel. Yeah I'm thinking it could even be Cespedes competing with some right-handed hitting minor league OF not yet signed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, fathom said: I’m expecting Leury He’s still got 2 years left on his deal right? It seems like he signed that deal a decade ago ugh… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: They can't be stupid enough to run Eloy as primary LF and Sheets as the primary DH. They absolutely can be that stupid. You're talking about the same franchise that ran 3 1B/DH types in the corner OF last year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Huh? The position they have to fill voa trade or FA is an OF. They can go internal at 2B. Nothing you’re saying is making any sense. Everyone was penciling Colas into their 2023 OFs, what people were likely telling you is that he’s unlikely to break camp with the Sox. He still shouldn’t, but feels more likely now than ever. Sox should really sign someone like Conforto + someone like Frazier who can play OF for a few weeks until Colas arrives. They can go internal for outfield too but it doesn’t mean they should. How much do you think Conforto is going to sign for and how much more do you think they will spend? You might want to revisit the Conforto thread from last summer as a refresher on this entire Conforto/Colas discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I'm beginning to think they're doing absolutely nothing. They're going to run Sheets and Leury in LF and go internal at 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: FYI, this doesn't say "Opening Day RF." And most of us have said early May, sometime after they get the extra year of control. You might be talking about arguing with like, one person. Maybe they’ve been saying it now but they weren’t saying it last summer. Again, review the Conforto thread from last summer. As far as opening day RF, if not Colas then who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: I'm beginning to think they're doing absolutely nothing. They're going to run Sheets and Leury in LF and go internal at 2B. I think they’ll sign a garbage bin vet like Naquin but if people are expecting much more than that they’re setting themselves up for disappointment. Outfield options will be cheap vet, Robert, Colas, Garcia, Reyes, and Sheets/Eloy in a pinch. It’s also possible they don’t sign a veteran outfielder at all and just roll with the rest of those guys plus a near MLB ready minor leaguer like Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: what other positions do they have to fill? 2B can be in-grown. No bullpen please god. No utilities please god. SP minor depth would be nice. Literally throw all our money at a LH OF. Yeah unless they trade Hendriks and need to sign another reliever for bullpen depth, the only place they can really spend is in the OF. Rotation depth can come from minor league signings and we'll have a 2B out of Romy, Sosa, Rodriguez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Maybe they’ve been saying it now but they weren’t saying it last summer. Again, review the Conforto thread from last summer. As far as opening day RF, if not Colas then who? Idk stopgap for 2 and a half weeks. Mix of Leury, Reyes, Sheets (gulp). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Maybe they’ve been saying it now but they weren’t saying it last summer. Again, review the Conforto thread from last summer. As far as opening day RF, if not Colas then who? One corner will be the primary LH OF addition, whether that is via FA or trade. Conforto still feels possible, but sadly perhaps out of the Sox price range. The other corner will likely be scrap heap signing like Adam Frazier with some Sheets/Leury sprinkled in. Once Colas arrives a few weeks into the season, he takes over a corner (might be left depending on who is acquired for the other corner) and Frazier/scrapheap signing shifts to 2B rotation and OF reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I'm beginning to think they're doing absolutely nothing. They're going to run Sheets and Leury in LF and go internal at 2B. 6 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: I think they’ll sign a garbage bin vet like Naquin but if people are expecting much more than that they’re setting themselves up for disappointment. Outfield options will be cheap vet, Robert, Colas, Garcia, Reyes, and Sheets/Eloy in a pinch. It’s also possible they don’t sign a veteran outfielder at all and just roll with the rest of those guys plus a near MLB ready minor leaguer like Cespedes. This is exactly were I'm at with them. Hahn is like a puppy that just got his balls snipped by JR. He's far too timid and incompetent to make a meaningful trade or shake it up. We're going to get the classic "we aren't going to force a deal to make a deal" BS lingo. Edited December 13, 2022 by CWSpalehoseCWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 If they don’t trade for a second baseman I’m down for Popeye time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: They absolutely can be that stupid. You're talking about the same franchise that ran 3 1B/DH types in the corner OF last year. There was a game in 2021 where Abreu, Vaughn, and Sheets were all in the same lineup… And none of the three were playing first base. If that’s not the most ridiculous White Sox thing ever, I don’t know what is. I’m actually laughing out loud while typing this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: One corner will be the primary LH OF addition, whether that is via FA or trade. Conforto still feels possible, but sadly perhaps out of the Sox price range. The other corner will likely be scrap heap signing like Adam Frazier with some Sheets/Leury sprinkled in. Once Colas arrives a few weeks into the season, he takes over a corner (might be left depending on who is acquired for the other corner) and Frazier/scrapheap signing shifts to 2B rotation and OF reserve. With the new union rules regarding service time manipulation, I could see the Sox penciling in Colas from day one and they should if they’re serious about winning in 2023. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, LittleHurtCG said: What kind of numbers are we expecting from this kid next year? He has less than 250 at bats above A ball. .200, .235, .375 with average to above average defense. Soxtalk will say hes a bust but will ignore the fact he has 0 minor league seasoning like all of our other prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33761266/the-end-mlb-service-manipulation-how-kris-bryant-paved-way-next-kris-bryant?platform=amp It’s about halfway into the article but those are the reasons, among others, why Colas will be the opening day RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, reiks12 said: .200, .235, .375 with average to above average defense. Soxtalk will say hes a bust but will ignore the fact he has 0 minor league seasoning like all of our other prospects. Looks about right and makes him the second best outfield option on the roster (assuming Eloy is primarily a DH) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, reiks12 said: .200, .235, .375 with average to above average defense. Soxtalk will say hes a bust but will ignore the fact he has 0 minor league seasoning like all of our other prospects. I’d be absolutely shocked if his batting average and OBP were that low. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 54 minutes ago, reiks12 said: .200, .235, .375 with average to above average defense. Soxtalk will say hes a bust but will ignore the fact he has 0 minor league seasoning like all of our other prospects. I’m not saying it equates to AA or anything, but I don’t think you can discount his time in Japan either. At worst I think flying across the world to play in a foreign country at least built some maturity. I don’t doubt there will be some growing plans like anyone else, but I wouldn’t consider Colas a typical raw prospect without experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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