July 11, 20232 yr Benintendi 7 Remillard 6 Robert 8 Vaughn 3 Moncada 5 Burger DH Colas 9 Zavala 2 Sosa 4
July 11, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: Benintendi 7 Remillard 6 Robert 8 Vaughn 3 Moncada 5 Burger DH Colas 9 Zavala 2 Sosa 4 Jiminez traded or hurt?
July 11, 20232 yr I kind of think Anderson gets moved. Grandal is a maybe if someone is desperate for a backup catcher and we’re willing to eat money. Not sure I expect a lot of other movement on the positional side.
July 11, 20232 yr Benintendi LF Remillard 2B Robert CF Vaughn 1B Sheets DH Burger 3B Colas RF Zavala C Elvis SS TA traded, Grandal, Eloy, & Moncada IL. Edited July 11, 20232 yr by Tnetennba
July 11, 20232 yr Benintendi LF Remillard 2B Arenado 3B Robert CF Burger DH Vaughn 1B Colas RF Andrus SS Zavala C TA and Grandal traded. Sheets is also traded along with a pitcher. Arenado, upon being traded to the Sox and playing the August 1 game, announces his retirement and quits baseball altogether.
July 11, 20232 yr 1. Sosa 3B 2. Frazier RF 3. Robert CF 4. Jimenez DH 5. Vaughn 1B 6. Mondou 2B 7. Gonzalez SS 8. Piscotty LF 9. Skoug C There....I took Heyman's word that only the core of Robert, Vaughn and Eloy would stay....the rest I pulled from Charlotte....feel free to stick Remillard in there somewhere instead.
July 11, 20232 yr No idea but hopefully Giolito, Lynn, Clevinger, Middleton, Lopez, Graveman, Grandal are all dealt. I hope Moncada is too but that is so unlikely it isn't worth mentioning above.
July 11, 20232 yr I think if they tear it down to the studs, Andrus and Grandal should both be released. They've got to gut that toxic clubhouse and give playing time to folks who may be here moving forward.
July 11, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, Timmy U said: I think if they tear it down to the studs, Andrus and Grandal should both be released. They've got to gut that toxic clubhouse and give playing time to folks who may be here moving forward. If Grandal isn’t moved by the deadline, I would release him for sure.
July 11, 20232 yr Author 32 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: If Grandal isn’t moved by the deadline, I would release him for sure. I wouldn't release Grandal if he can't be traded. It's not like he's blocking some super catching prospect.
July 11, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: I wouldn't release Grandal if he can't be traded. It's not like he's blocking some super catching prospect. He can’t really catch much anyway. Might as well see Perez.
July 11, 20232 yr 27 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: I wouldn't release Grandal if he can't be traded. It's not like he's blocking some super catching prospect. He needs to be traded, even it the FO has to be creative and eat a partial amount of his salary or in a trade not be greedy and take a few low A prospects. Grandal is blocking catchers from a defensive standpoint. I don't care if Perez and Zavala can't hit, at least they can catch better than Grandal. Grandal was never a good defensive catcher, his only decent skill was he supposedly was good at was framing. However at this point in his career he sucks at everything. As the one poster said, we need to clean out the cancerous culture on this team.
July 11, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: No idea but hopefully Giolito, Lynn, Clevinger, Middleton, Lopez, Graveman, Grandal are all dealt. I hope Moncada is too but that is so unlikely it isn't worth mentioning above. All those need to be dealt, but you forgot Tim Anderson. ?
July 11, 20232 yr Just now, The Kids Can Play said: All those need to be dealt, but you forgot Tim Anderson. ? I'm just torn on him. Part of me thinks they should keep him and see how he does next year but honestly, he probably needs a change of scenery and staying longer may not be the best.
July 11, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I'm just torn on him. Part of me thinks they should keep him and see how he does next year but honestly, he probably needs a change of scenery and staying longer may not be the best. It's either now or this winter. I really don't see any way the Sox bring him back next year.
July 11, 20232 yr I am not as down on TA as others, I just think both he and the Sox are ready to move on.
July 11, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I'm just torn on him. Part of me thinks they should keep him and see how he does next year but honestly, he probably needs a change of scenery and staying longer may not be the best. I appreciate and get your logic to wait until next year and hope he rebounds and then his trade value goes up by the 2024 deadline. However if he doesn't get better and it's same crap again, then the Sox are trying to trade TA with more negatives next year. GM's will now have to decide next year, if they really can turn him around. My point is, by this deadline, a GM might might let one bad year go and think, ok the Sox are losers and we can get him corrected. This was just one bad fluke year. However two years in a row and the doubts are much more magnified on TA. I would rather trade TA now and get some prospects. There will always be one team out there that feels they can turn him around. We've already seen several ex-Sox players get better on other clubs.
July 11, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Benintendi Anderson Robert Ohtani Jimenez Vaughn Grandal Burger Remillard Who did we trade to get Ohtani?
July 11, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said: I appreciate and get your logic to wait until next year and hope he rebounds and then his trade value goes up by the 2024 deadline. However if he doesn't get better and it's same crap again, then the Sox are trying to trade TA with more negatives next year. GM's will now have to decide next year, if they really can turn him around. My point is, by this deadline, a GM might might let one bad year go and think, ok the Sox are losers and we can get him corrected. This was just one bad fluke year. However two years in a row and the doubts are much more magnified on TA. I would rather trade TA now and get some prospects. There will always be one team out there that feels they can turn him around. We've already seen several ex-Sox players get better on other clubs. There's an old baseball saying, "better to trade a player one year to soon than one year to late..."
July 11, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, CentralChamps21 said: Benintendi 7 Remillard 6 Robert 8 Vaughn 3 Moncada 5 Burger DH Colas 9 Zavala 2 Sosa 4 I don’t think Anderson gets moved. I think the Sox are stuck with him.
July 11, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: Who did we trade to get Ohtani? Note that I didn't add Schultz to the bullpen or Montgomery to 2b, I figure that's a decent offer for 2 months of Ohtani.
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