Lip Man 1 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 This is an excellent look at the situation and its ramifications. Brad is my radio broadcast partner for Idaho State. He went to Northwestern, was the sports editor of the student newspaper. Both Michael Wilbon and Christine Brennen worked under him: https://www.idahostatejournal.com/freeaccess/opinion-lessons-from-northwesterns-hazing-scandal/article_cd07ad90-21a9-11ee-ac26-3797ea3bc63a.html?fbclid=IwAR1U4uZiijL7cLUjDWoARGU48cX5HlbGLnqD5XKvCAvGr-zUyUlg5jrYqWU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Milkman delivers said: I can get on board with that. Just don’t think it automatically makes Fitzgerald a bad person that it happened during his tenure. He may not have been aware. And I didn’t know who he was before this week. I always liked and respected Pat Fitzgerald. I have always pulled for him to build the NU program to some national prominence which never happened. I'm sure Fitz is a nice guy and all that stuff. However the bottom line is, he was the head coach and the buck did stop with him. Fitz unfortunately assumed he had leaders on his team, or his good assistant coaches that were closer to the action going on. Regardless of the factors that caused the termination of Fitz, there just wasn't the right positive team culture where the players wouldn't dare consider something as hideous as bullying or hazing to a teammate, fearing the consequences from their head coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 8 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: This is an excellent look at the situation and its ramifications. Brad is my radio broadcast partner for Idaho State. He went to Northwestern, was the sports editor of the student newspaper. Both Michael Wilbon and Christine Brennen worked under him: https://www.idahostatejournal.com/freeaccess/opinion-lessons-from-northwesterns-hazing-scandal/article_cd07ad90-21a9-11ee-ac26-3797ea3bc63a.html?fbclid=IwAR1U4uZiijL7cLUjDWoARGU48cX5HlbGLnqD5XKvCAvGr-zUyUlg5jrYqWU That's a great article. However it's very disturbing about the two acts of hazing the NU upperclassmen did called "Running the Player" and the "Gauntlet." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 14 hours ago, Milkman delivers said: I guess I’m just tired of the current overall culture of allegations automatically leading to firings. I guess I didn’t really pay attention to the baseball side of the story. I’ve only heard about the football coach. I still don’t agree with your first sentence of the thread. I can see why you’d call Foster a scumbag, but not sure Fitzgerald deserves that title as of now. Sexual misconduct, sexual assault, sexual exploitation, sexual harassment - https://dailynorthwestern.com/2023/07/08/top-stories/former-nu-football-player-details-hazing-allegations-after-coach-suspension/ Racism - https://dailynorthwestern.com/2023/07/10/sports/former-nu-players-describe-racist-environment-in-football-program/ The entire AD department should be removed with systemic changes implemented to ensure students are protected and this never happens again. - https://dailynorthwestern.com/2023/07/13/sports/faculty-call-for-systemic-change-within-athletics-department/ Congratulations to the student journalists who helped protect future athletes from suffering the same fate as those suffered under Fitzgerald, Foster, Mike Polisky and other Northwestern senior athleitc staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) A good friend of mine who is a NU alumni reminded of a baseball head coach who would have been perfect. I wonder why NU didn't at least make an effort to go after former Northwestern player and alumni Joe Girardi. There were rumors that he was a candidate. I know he was offered a head coaching job at the University of Central Florida last month which he declined. I would think if NU offered enough money he might at least consider it. He would bring a lot of creditability to the rattled sports program with his resume of winning a World Series both as a player and manager. He had a nice 15 year playing career and three stints as a manager with a lifetime record of 1120-935 .545% His college credentials were pretty good too, as a two time first team All Big Ten selection and three time Academic All-American at NU. You would think that being head coach at his alma mater would be far more exciting than his current gig as a backup color analyst for the Cubs on the Marquee network. The fact he even listened to the college offer from UCF means it's not out of the realm of reality. It's not like they can't afford to offer the money to Girardi. Northwestern has the 8th largest endowment fund in the US for all colleges and universities at 14.4 billion. Edited July 15, 2023 by The Kids Can Play 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 15 hours ago, Milkman delivers said: I can get on board with that. Just don’t think it automatically makes Fitzgerald a bad person that it happened during his tenure. He may not have been aware. And I didn’t know who he was before this week. Pretty naive to believe that the head coach was completely unaware of years of systemic hazing, bullying, and abuse happening right under his nose. Making black assistant coaches cut their dreads wasn't a good look either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 There are lots of rumors linking Chris Getz to Northwestern opening. Just not sure if he’s interested 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: There are lots of rumors linking Chris Getz to Northwestern opening. Just not sure if he’s interested Please Sweet Baby Jesus make the jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Wish he could have hit the breaking ball. Hawk thought he was the total package. He had a nice year at AAA so he can't be counted as one of those we've ruined by rushing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 17 hours ago, Stinky Stanky said: Wish he could have hit the breaking ball. Hawk thought he was the total package. He had a nice year at AAA so he can't be counted as one of those we've ruined by rushing. At the time, I wanted him to develop but we had to sign Darin Erstad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Brian said: At the time, I wanted him to develop but we had to sign Darin Erstad. Ozzie buried him. Too soon for me, although god knows what went on behind the scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 Sounds like Skip Holtz coming to Northwestern lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/7/19/23800347/northwestern-university-football-abuse-hazing-lawsuit-patrick-fitzgerald We’re talking about probably hundreds, if not thousands of events of abuse, harassment or sexual assault during his tenure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 On 7/20/2023 at 7:16 AM, Kyyle23 said: Sounds like Skip Holtz coming to Northwestern lol Will pay more than the USFL but fewer championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 They need to fire their AD ASAP, and anyone involved in his hiring through the President and Board of Regents. Northwestern may be the one organization more incompetent than the White Sox. https://awfulannouncing.com/ncaa/northwestern-ad-derrick-gragg-book-women-distraction-sex-kittens.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 A book written in 2015. I fucking hate the current culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Milkman delivers said: A book written in 2015. I fucking hate the current culture. He is trash, unfit to lead then, unfit to lead now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 An opinion I disagree with! Fire him! Burn his house down! Make sure he never gets hired again! Is there a jerking off emoji on this site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 I didn’t mean any of that to be taken personally. I’m just fed up with the constant (what I’d call) overreactions to every single issue for the virtue signaling points. I don’t give two shits about Northwestern at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Milkman delivers said: I didn’t mean any of that to be taken personally. I’m just fed up with the constant (what I’d call) overreactions to every single issue for the virtue signaling points. I don’t give two shits about Northwestern at all. I agree there are many times when reactions go overboard, but when there is severe abuse of young adults or children, this is not a serious person you want overseeing a large department, especially at this stage. Think everyone there should go, just like everyone should have been fired overseeing Penn State, Micnigan State and all the other Big Ten schools with a systemic pervasive decades long rape issues and other forms of widespread abuse which appears to be the case here. If he is changing your oil, cutting trees, or sitting in a cube updating spreadsheets, his statements or opinions are not having an impact on others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Know what is happening in your program. Make everyone aware that hazing is cause for termination. Players, coaches, everyone. Create a culture where players will report hazing. Communication, trust. If you can't do these basic job functions, you won't have a coaching job at the high school, college, or pro ranks moving forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 But he has a PHD...just shows how lost in the ivory tower and almost more deferential to Fitz than concerned about the aggrieved parties. "We had our best combined academic and team results combined ever and nobody wants to talk about that...the brand has taken a significant hit, etc." Can't get out of own way. It's like Ozzie Guillen is running their coordinated media response team while JR/university president hide and just hope it all goes away with football season getting underway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) Digging back into the Baseball Decision, the original report that Jim Foster was fired made by NU AD Derrick "Women are Man's Greatest Distraction" Gragg turns out to be false. Perhaps a woman was walking by when he made the statement, distracting him from the truth. OG Campus Newspaper Report: https://www.mlive.com/sports/2023/07/northwestern-fires-baseball-coach-jim-foster-amid-bullying-allegations.html Quote The university has fired head baseball coach Jim Foster on Thursday, Vice President for Athletics and Recreation Dr. Derrick Gragg announced. NU AD 7/13 AD Derrick Gragg's statement: https://nusports.com/news/2023/7/13/northwestern-baseball-announces-leadership-change.aspx Quote Northwestern Head Baseball Coach Jim Foster has been relieved of his duties effective immediately, Combe Family Vice President for Athletics and Recreation Dr. Derrick Gragg announced Thursday. University President Michael Schill claims today Jim Foster was not fired, but rather is serving at least single secret "indefinite suspension", well secret until Thursday. The President and AD need to be shitcanned today, if not sooner. PS - Rocky Wirtz served on the Northwestern Board of Trustees until Tuesday. https://www.adminplan.northwestern.edu/board-of-trustees/trustee/ W. Rockwell Wirtz President Wirtz Corporation Edited July 28, 2023 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 I had the opportunity yesterday to listen to a successful D1 college head football coach talk about how they built their brand on integrity and respect. He's local and two of my former students are playing for him. I can't imagine a scandal like this in his program. I can't imagine my former students acting in that manner. I'd be crushed to learn that. I have great empathy for Northwestern supporters who have to deal with this. He also touched on when these problems happen it hurts all programs. It's always bigger than the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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