August 26, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, Dick Allen said: JR owed the fans Chris Getz. He delivered, then asked for $1 billion. "That moved me to the thought -- what is it I owe to the fans? I think one of the things I owe the fans is to get better as fast as we can possibly get better. Speed is of the essence. I don't want a long-term proposition. "It became clear to me that he [Getz] would be one of the major candidates, alongside these other candidates. And then when I started thinking about the speed I owe the fans, I realized that if you bring in somebody from the outside, it's gonna take him a year, he's gonna have to evaluate everybody in the organization. So you'll lose a year." That fight after rapid improvement was 95% leverage for a new stadium and 5% for the fans. Edited August 26, 20241 yr by caulfield12
August 26, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Dick Allen said: JR owed the fans Chris Getz. He delivered, then asked for $1 billion. "That moved me to the thought -- what is it I owe to the fans? I think one of the things I owe the fans is to get better as fast as we can possibly get better. Speed is of the essence. I don't want a long-term proposition. "It became clear to me that he [Getz] would be one of the major candidates, alongside these other candidates. And then when I started thinking about the speed I owe the fans, I realized that if you bring in somebody from the outside, it's gonna take him a year, he's gonna have to evaluate everybody in the organization. So you'll lose a year." We lost the year moreso than any team in the history of professional baseball. If Reinsdorf is still of sound mind and body Getz would be gone but we all know he will not.
August 26, 20241 yr 24 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: We lost the year moreso than any team in the history of professional baseball. If Reinsdorf is still of sound mind and body Getz would be gone but we all know he will not. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch_Barrett_Rickey Available. Slightly younger than TLR. Ties to Jackie Robinson, Roberto Clemente and the Brooklyn Dodgers, a team beloved by JR.
August 26, 20241 yr Getz should have been gone with Pedro. Getz was an under qualified candidate. Please end the misery and get rid of this KC loser
August 27, 20241 yr Getz should be fired just based off the pitiful return on the trades he made last month. it’s beyond embarrassing!!!
August 27, 20241 yr 8 hours ago, Tomas said: Getz should have been gone with Pedro. Getz was an under qualified candidate. Please end the misery and get rid of this KC loser Get rid of all Michigan connections in the front office...
August 27, 20241 yr Admit your mistake and fire him. Before hired, he was one of 2 things. Either someone who deserved his fair share of blame for the failure leading up to firing his bosses, or he was a coffee boy. Either way, he wasn’t qualified, and you can see that every day. It’s ludicrous he has a job.
August 27, 20241 yr I can’t wait to see this thread next year at this time because the Sox will probably lose 100+ games again. Which I’m more than fine with. Edited August 27, 20241 yr by Boopa1219
August 27, 20241 yr Holy s%*#… I just realized how bad we are. This whole time I thought it was good when we lost, figured the number in the L column meant we were playoff contenders, and heard all this talk of historic records which made me figure our team was destined for greatness. So you’re telling me we actually suck? Huh, go figure.
August 27, 20241 yr This thread is humorous to me. Chris Getz is in year one. I can’t argue that he’s good but he’s not going anywhere anytime soon. What a massive waste of time.
August 27, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This thread is humorous to me. Chris Getz is in year one. I can’t argue that he’s good but he’s not going anywhere anytime soon. What a massive waste of time. Nothing wrong with fans venting about being stuck with an unqualified and completely over-his-head GM when we’re in the midst of the worse season in baseball history. This has been a damaging season for many of us and I have accepted the fact my sons will never be diehard Sox fans because of how bad Jerry and his incompetent group of lieutenants have destroyed the franchise and how many years it’s going to take to right this ship with them in charge. And the fact that he’s in year one doesn’t prevent us from assessing him on his performance so far. Yes, the org needs a lot of long-term transformation and that will obviously take time, but in the interim we can be disappointed with most of the trades Getz has made, question their pro scouting of positional players, and not give him a free pass for an inability to develop minor league hitters given he inherited that lack of infrared from himself.
August 27, 20241 yr 45 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Nothing wrong with fans venting about being stuck with an unqualified and completely over-his-head GM when we’re in the midst of the worse season in baseball history. This has been a damaging season for many of us and I have accepted the fact my sons will never be diehard Sox fans because of how bad Jerry and his incompetent group of lieutenants have destroyed the franchise and how many years it’s going to take to right this ship with them in charge. And the fact that he’s in year one doesn’t prevent us from assessing him on his performance so far. Yes, the org needs a lot of long-term transformation and that will obviously take time, but in the interim we can be disappointed with most of the trades Getz has made, question their pro scouting of positional players, and not give him a free pass for an inability to develop minor league hitters given he inherited that lack of infrared from himself. And also, he was a part of the org during the last regime. If Marco Paddy has to go, why does Getz, who was bad in his old job and has continued to make bad moves while in a position of power, get a pass?
August 27, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, Quin said: And also, he was a part of the org during the last regime. If Marco Paddy has to go, why does Getz, who was bad in his old job and has continued to make bad moves while in a position of power, get a pass? The point being, if he was not responsible for any of the stink, he didn't do anything. So any way you slice it, he is over employed.
August 27, 20241 yr It's funny, when they went 81-81 you thought, they really couldn't play any worse, next season has to be better. Then they go 61-101 and you think they couldn't be any worse, next season has to be better. Now they are 31-101 and you're no longer thinking, it really can't get worse.
August 27, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This thread is humorous to me. Chris Getz is in year one. I can’t argue that he’s good but he’s not going anywhere anytime soon. What a massive waste of time. I really don't think there is anything that can possibly happen that will fundamentally change the way JR operates the White Sox, and until he dies, he isn't going anywhere either. That could be tomorow, that could be 10 years from now. I wish no one whose most evil thing they have done is run a sports franchise into the ground death, but are we supposed to stop discussing the team? Nothing is going to change.
August 27, 20241 yr 33 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: It's funny, when they went 81-81 you thought, they really couldn't play any worse, next season has to be better. Then they go 61-101 and you think they couldn't be any worse, next season has to be better. Now they are 31-101 and you're no longer thinking, it really can't get worse. It raises the question of what's an acceptable improvement for next year. 60 wins? 70? .500? Outside of Benintendi, the team next year will be players that he has acquired or chosen to keep. And calling a $15M contract an albatross in this day and age is a moronic excuse. If they're a 60 win team next year, then he's flirting with Pedro's performance as a manager.
August 27, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This thread is humorous to me. Chris Getz is in year one. I can’t argue that he’s good but he’s not going anywhere anytime soon. What a massive waste of time. This isn't like the usual nervousness of a 16 year old driving a car this first time. This that same kid crossing 3 lanes and ramming into a tree at 60 mph. Do you really need to see more before you go maybe he's not ready for this yet? We can give him credit for putting his seatbelt on first, but everything else is just scary.
August 27, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This thread is humorous to me. Chris Getz is in year one. I can’t argue that he’s good but he’s not going anywhere anytime soon. What a massive waste of time. Are you saying that you think he is not a complete failure as an employee of the Chicago White Sox? How log of a rope does he get for hiring Bannister? That is the only thing he has done right.
August 27, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: Are you saying that you think he is not a complete failure as an employee of the Chicago White Sox? How log of a rope does he get for hiring Bannister? That is the only thing he has done right. And even with Bannister, he has the worst pitching staff in the AL, second only to Colorado in team ERA. He focused on defense, and that sucks so bad. We weren't expecting 90 wins, but it's obvious he isn't the guy for the job. Move on Edited August 27, 20241 yr by Dick Allen
August 27, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This thread is humorous to me. Chris Getz is in year one. I can’t argue that he’s good but he’s not going anywhere anytime soon. What a massive waste of time. Sure, but that’s because Reinsdorf is gonna Reinsdorf. That doesn’t mean Getz ever deserved the job to begin with or deserves to keep it. The early results of Getz’s biggest moves this season have been that they are colossal failures. And if this is how bad he looks in his first year, with most of his moves backfiring, who the hell wants him making future moves in his second, third, and additional future years as the Sox GM? Edited August 27, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023
August 27, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Sure, but that’s because Reinsdorf is gonna Reinsdorf. That doesn’t mean Getz ever deserved the job to begin with or deserves to keep it. The early results of Getz’s biggest moves this season have been that they are colossal failures. And if this is how bad he looks in his first year, with most of his moves backfiring, who the hell wants him making future moves in his second, third, and additional future years as the Sox GM? - His only trade that is an outright win is Robbie Grossman. Santos is probably the next closest due to the draft pick. - Offensive prospects took a huge step back. - Failed in his major goal of improving the defense. - On track for worst record of modern era. - Signed/traded for several players who have zero or negative value: Maldonado, Vargas, Shuster, half the bullpen, Julks, Senzel, Clevinger, Stassi, - Dumped useful players for nothing: Pillar, Romy, Cronin. Like, he's a bad GM.
August 27, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, Quin said: - His only trade that is an outright win is Robbie Grossman. Santos is probably the next closest due to the draft pick. - Offensive prospects took a huge step back. - Failed in his major goal of improving the defense. - On track for worst record of modern era. - Signed/traded for several players who have zero or negative value: Maldonado, Vargas, Shuster, half the bullpen, Julks, Senzel, Clevinger, Stassi, - Dumped useful players for nothing: Pillar, Romy, Cronin. Like, he's a bad GM. There's that Q take down.
August 27, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, Quin said: - His only trade that is an outright win is Robbie Grossman. Santos is probably the next closest due to the draft pick. - Offensive prospects took a huge step back. - Failed in his major goal of improving the defense. - On track for worst record of modern era. - Signed/traded for several players who have zero or negative value: Maldonado, Vargas, Shuster, half the bullpen, Julks, Senzel, Clevinger, Stassi, - Dumped useful players for nothing: Pillar, Romy, Cronin. Like, he's a bad GM. Hey, give him a break.....he's only in his 1st year.
August 27, 20241 yr We were promised the second coming of Branch Rickey...hitting the ground running since he already knew the ins and outs of the Sox system.
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