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Cease To Padres per Passan

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7 minutes ago, fathom said:

I’m assuming he means Mariners

He said in the same podcast that he didn't believe the Cease/Mariners rumors

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Yeah he’s saying nothing more than we know already, they’re waiting 

Really at this point it’s all a waiting game, until we hear deal is close or the White Sox X account breaks the news we’re all SOL here. 

35 minutes ago, Rey21 said:

Really at this point it’s all a waiting game, until we hear deal is close or the White Sox X account breaks the news we’re all SOL here. 

Yep

1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said:

Lol. Barring a significant injury, Cease is definitely getting traded before his team control expires in….20 months. Add this to the long list of asinine Cease takes. 

He's going to get traded before his team control is up, but it probably won't be this offseason, and maybe not until next deadline. It depends on how he pitches this season. 

What a boring offseason. 

1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:

What a boring offseason. 

Maybe it’s just me, and maybe there’s more to it, but little things like Michael Lorenzen who is coming off a pretty solid year being forced to have to throw a bullpen session for interested teams tells me how much penny pinching is going on in baseball. The MLB offseasons continue to just suck. 

2 minutes ago, Rey21 said:

Maybe it’s just me, and maybe there’s more to it, but little things like Michael Lorenzen who is coming off a pretty solid year being forced to have to throw a bullpen session for interested teams tells me how much penny pinching is going on in baseball. The MLB offseasons continue to just suck. 

If players union would only agree to a floor w/ a cap, a lot of these veterans would be getting paid what they are worth.  

4 minutes ago, Rey21 said:

Maybe it’s just me, and maybe there’s more to it, but little things like Michael Lorenzen who is coming off a pretty solid year being forced to have to throw a bullpen session for interested teams tells me how much penny pinching is going on in baseball. The MLB offseasons continue to just suck. 

Yeah there’s a lot of guys out there still who can help teams. And it’s almost February!

2 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said:

If players union would only agree to a floor w/ a cap, a lot of these veterans would be getting paid what they are worth.  

If only the owners would agree to a floor lol.

7 minutes ago, Rey21 said:

If only the owners would agree to a floor lol.

I think it was Passan or Ken that had an article recently that it's the players that are holding alot of advancements in this area up. If it was up to the owners according to that article they would have free agency dates and a floor. 

Plus it was mentioned in the article that Scott Boras loves an offseason like this because his players get paid eventually. He doesn't give a s%*# if this sport gets overshadowed by the rest of the sports during the offseason. 

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Ultimately MLB needs to fix this and soon. An offseason that had Ohtani in it should not be the most boring offseason even in the past 5 years. It's only getting worse. 

I don’t think a salary floor would help Bellinger, Chapman or Snell get signed sooner. 

1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I don’t think a salary floor would help Bellinger, Chapman or Snell get signed sooner. 

Disagree.  A floor would come with a cap.   Each player you listed would know exactly what each team would be able to max out at to get them and not be sitting there being delusional like Snell is for some $270 million miracle that no team has the requirement or will to offer him. 

 

14 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said:

Disagree.  A floor would come with a cap.   Each player you listed would know exactly what each team would be able to max out at to get them and not be sitting there being delusional like Snell is for some $270 million miracle that no team has the requirement or will to offer him. 

 

A salary cap is 100% never happening. The floor also doesn’t help though because rebuilding clubs etc would just take on bad contracts to get to the floor etc. He might help the middle of the market type guys a bit though. 

3 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

A salary cap is 100% never happening. The floor also doesn’t help though because rebuilding clubs etc would just take on bad contracts to get to the floor etc. He might help the middle of the market type guys a bit though. 

Could offer guys higher AAVs on 1-2 year deals and try to flip later.

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1 hour ago, Dick Allen said:

What a boring offseason. 

Nothing boring about a bunch of scrap-heap guys and/or former Royals!

13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Nothing boring about a bunch of scrap-heap guys and/or former Royals!

Aren't the Royals still outspending the other 4 Central teams aggregated together this offseason?

 

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1 hour ago, HOFHurt35 said:

If players union would only agree to a floor w/ a cap, a lot of these veterans would be getting paid what they are worth.  

If only the owners who are making record profits and having more international and domestic revenue streams then ever and who participate in a 10 billion dollar industry (by MLB's own admission) would actually try to win, a lot of these players, many of whom can still contribute would already be signed.   

1 hour ago, Baron said:

I think it was Passan or Ken that had an article recently that it's the players that are holding alot of advancements in this area up. If it was up to the owners according to that article they would have free agency dates and a floor. 

Plus it was mentioned in the article that Scott Boras loves an offseason like this because his players get paid eventually. He doesn't give a s%*# if this sport gets overshadowed by the rest of the sports during the offseason. 

Nor should he. His job as an agent is to get his client the best possible deal. Now if MLB wants to start paying him some type of fee to promote the game by various means...well that's a different story. ?

10 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

If only the owners who are making record profits and having more international and domestic revenue streams then ever and who participate in a 10 billion dollar industry (by MLB's own admission) would actually try to win, a lot of these players, many of whom can still contribute would already be signed.   

If only the fans would one day wake up and realize this is a business first, and then a sport.  

1 hour ago, Rey21 said:

If only the owners would agree to a floor lol.

There have been proposals where they have but they won't agree to it until the union agrees to a cap. 

A salary cap so dickbag owners can make even more money but people will be momentarily entertained during the off season.  Brilliant!

30 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

If only the owners who are making record profits and having more international and domestic revenue streams then ever and who participate in a 10 billion dollar industry (by MLB's own admission) would actually try to win, a lot of these players, many of whom can still contribute would already be signed.   

Where is the documents that show they are making record profits? 

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