June 5, 20241 yr 59 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Schultz 9, Colson 12, Thorpe 41, & Quero 90. Do they have updated writeups for each?
June 5, 20241 yr I'm surprised they still have Colson that high? Do they think he will adjust to velocity?
June 5, 20241 yr That's awesome. How many pitchers are above Schultz? 56 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: I'm surprised they still have Colson that high? Do they think he will adjust to velocity? Feels like a portion of Soxtalk has almost written off Montgomery. I don't hear anything negative about him anywhere else. @Sleepy Harold@Y2Jimmy0, is it just the echo chamber here or are there serious concerns about him? Edited June 5, 20241 yr by Nardiwashere
June 5, 20241 yr 38 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: That's awesome. How many pitchers are above Schultz? Feels like a portion of Soxtalk has almost written off Montgomery. I don't hear anything negative about him anywhere else. @Sleepy Harold@Y2Jimmy0, is it just the echo chamber here or are there serious concerns about him? I'm not writing him off at all, I said earlier even if Fangraphs projection of 45 hit/60 power is true that's still very good at 3B and great at SS once combined with a good OBP. I'm just surprised that given his early struggles BA has him 12th overall. I would have thought something around 30-40 or so.
June 5, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: I'm not writing him off at all, I said earlier even if Fangraphs projection of 45 hit/60 power is true that's still very good at 3B and great at SS once combined with a good OBP. I'm just surprised that given his early struggles BA has him 12th overall. I would have thought something around 30-40 or so. I didn't think you were... Didn't mean to imply that. I have noticed other posts being a little more negative about him in the last couple of weeks and your comment made me think of it.
June 5, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: That's awesome. How many pitchers are above Schultz? Feels like a portion of Soxtalk has almost written off Montgomery. I don't hear anything negative about him anywhere else. @Sleepy Harold@Y2Jimmy0, is it just the echo chamber here or are there serious concerns about him? The one interesting thing I saw was about his inability to hit velocity. There was a tweet out there on it at some point.
June 5, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The one interesting thing I saw was about his inability to hit velocity. There was a tweet out there on it at some point. Yeah that's the type of stuff I'm referencing. This is a dumb question but wouldn't that flaw be exposed in AA too? I always figured AA has hard throwers and AAA has guys like Touki Toussaint mixed in with guys from AA on their way to the MLB.
June 5, 20241 yr Just now, Nardiwashere said: Yeah that's the type of stuff I'm referencing. This is a dumb question but wouldn't that flaw be exposed in AA too? I always figured AA has hard throwers and AAA has guys like Touki Toussaint mixed in with guys from AA on their way to the MLB. I can't find the tweet now, but it was something to the effect of how much his contact rate dropped with fastballs 94+ IIRC.
June 5, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I can't find the tweet now, but it was something to the effect of how much his contact rate dropped with fastballs 94+ IIRC. It's from Keith Law's updated top 50 that I posted. Edited June 5, 20241 yr by DirtySox
June 5, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, DirtySox said: It's from Keith Law's updated top 50 that I posted. That's it, thanks!
June 5, 20241 yr Author 6 hours ago, SoCalChiSox said: Do they have updated writeups for each? Kind of, they're very brief and vague for the most part. Nothing really in-depth. This is the Schultz write-up. Quote Ht: 6'9" | Wt: 220 | B-T: L-L Age: null Opening Day Age: 20.7 ETA: 2025 The Skinny: Schultz impressed last year, but he’s taken a further step forward this year into the top-tier of pitching prospects. Schultz has been kept on very tight pitch limits, so durability remains a long-term concern. Scouting Grades Fastball: 65 | Slider: 60 | Changeup: 55 | Control: 60 Edited June 5, 20241 yr by Sleepy Harold
June 5, 20241 yr Author 4 hours ago, Nardiwashere said: That's awesome. How many pitchers are above Schultz? Feels like a portion of Soxtalk has almost written off Montgomery. I don't hear anything negative about him anywhere else. @Sleepy Harold@Y2Jimmy0, is it just the echo chamber here or are there serious concerns about him? I don't think it's unfair to be skeptical. He was aggressively pushed to AAA but is still young for the level so I'm not panicking that he isn't dominating the level at this moment. IMO I think a lot of the negativity is drawn from unhappiness surrounding everything with the ML team, which I understand. Hard to separate the two sometimes. Edited June 5, 20241 yr by Sleepy Harold
June 6, 20241 yr Josh Norris has always been super high on Schultz right? Here's hoping he works out.
June 6, 20241 yr 8 hours ago, oldsox said: I wonder if BA knows he only pitches 3-4 innings per week. “Schultz has been kept on very tight pitch limits, so durability remains a long-term concern” Yup.
June 6, 20241 yr 16 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: I can't find the tweet now, but it was something to the effect of how much his contact rate dropped with fastballs 94+ IIRC. He had like 1/3 of a season in AA last year. Did not do well.
June 6, 20241 yr 46 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said: He had like 1/3 of a season in AA last year. Did not do well. Colson? A 129 wRC+ as a 21 in AA is doing “not well”? Where do you come up with this stuff.
June 6, 20241 yr After next month’s draft and Crochet/Robert trades, the Sox should have 8 players cracking this list in the offseason. Top 3 farm once all those trades are completed.
June 6, 20241 yr 22 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Colson? A 129 wRC+ as a 21 in AA is doing “not well”? Where do you come up with this stuff. I had no idea about that. He hit like .220 in AA. Are we at the point where 2012 Dunn is acceptable for an entire lineup? Who cares if the guy rarely gets a hit as long as it's a 2B or HR. Yeah, hit .205 all ya want if it comes with 40 HR and a bunch of walks. I'm as advanced stat heavy as anyone but hitting under .230 offends my baseball sensibilities. Edited June 6, 20241 yr by baseball_gal_aly
June 6, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said: I had no idea about that. He hit like .220 in AA. Are we at the point where 2012 Dunn is acceptable for an entire lineup? Who cares if the guy rarely gets a hit as long as it's a 2B or HR. Yeah, hit .205 all ya want if it comes with 40 HR and a bunch of walks. I'm as advanced stat heavy as anyone but hitting under .230 offends my baseball sensibilities. He hit .244 but just keep making stats up. And yes, let’s ignore the .400 OBP that came with that BA because Adam was an incredibly productive three outcome hitter who didn’t appeal to your baseball sensibilities 15 years ago.
June 6, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said: I don't think it's unfair to be skeptical. He was aggressively pushed to AAA but is still young for the level so I'm not panicking that he isn't dominating the level at this moment. IMO I think a lot of the negativity is drawn from unhappiness surrounding everything with the ML team, which I understand. Hard to separate the two sometimes. And now being more likely to end up at 3B rather than SS.
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