1 hour ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Robert quietly has a .773 OPS. That’s better than I would have expected given how shitty he’s looked at the plate most games.

He's been taking more walks than usual pumping up the OBP.

1 hour ago, TaylorStSox said:

Who cares? We're trying to develop players, not win games. 

I'm trying to figure out which players we are developing for Chicago and which we are developing for the trades. Are we trading tonight's starter? If we're trading Crochet don't see why tonight's starter would be safe. Now that it's obvious we're dealing Kopech, Getz better rob some team 3-4 fricking future starters either pitching or hitting or a combo of both. Kopech throws 100 consistently. A good organization should be able to turn him into Gossage. Getzie better win that trade!!!

Edited June 29, 20241 yr by greg775

7 hours ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Cya Tommy. Bring us a good one

I’ve always liked Pham but I really don’t think his trade value is as high as a lot of people around here think it is, I hope I’m wrong.

5 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

He's been taking more walks than usual pumping up the OBP.

The old adage is a walk is as good as a hit but I prefer hits.

1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said:

I’ve always liked Pham but I really don’t think his trade value is as high as a lot of people around here think it is, I hope I’m wrong.

I don’t think they get something special, but I bet they get someone that’s at least interesting. 

3 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

I’ve always liked Pham but I really don’t think his trade value is as high as a lot of people around here think it is, I hope I’m wrong.

Bowl of room temperature dog water would work.

3 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

I’ve always liked Pham but I really don’t think his trade value is as high as a lot of people around here think it is, I hope I’m wrong.

I would think most of the regulars are expecting a return somewhere between the Grossman and Middleton trades, if Pham is traded alone. He could certainly goose a Fedde trade from a lower top 100 prospect and another piece to 2 lower top 100 prospects, if packaged. 

Good to see Thorpe bounce back, we’re going to need him to continue pitching his style for many years, to have any improvement.

1 hour ago, Capn12 said:

Good to see Thorpe bounce back, we’re going to need him to continue pitching his style for many years, to have any improvement.

It’s nice that he’s had some pretty easy matchups to start his career. Probably helps the confidence a bit.

12 hours ago, 2Deep said:

Some team is going to turn Michael Kopech into a stud. I will not be mad at the White Sox if that happens. It just doesn't fit here but he has all the tools.

 

One tool short of a  toolkit. Needs a shrink.

12 hours ago, greg775 said:

I'm trying to figure out which players we are developing for Chicago and which we are developing for the trades. Are we trading tonight's starter? If we're trading Crochet don't see why tonight's starter would be safe. Now that it's obvious we're dealing Kopech, Getz better rob some team 3-4 fricking future starters either pitching or hitting or a combo of both. Kopech throws 100 consistently. A good organization should be able to turn him into Gossage. Getzie better win that trade!!!

Kopech has neither Gossage's talent nor more importantly his mind set to be an elite pitcher. 

Just now, Lip Man 1 said:

Kopech has neither Gossage's talent nor more importantly his mind set to be an elite pitcher. 

I disagree fully.  Michael Kopech has more raw talent then just about anyone in baseball.   He is just missing something between the ears to use it.

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I disagree fully.  Michael Kopech has more raw talent then just about anyone in baseball.   He is just missing something between the ears to use it.

Fair enough.

I saw Gossage pitch many times and I think his control was better myself but agree completely on the mental aspect. And Goose himself told me that he thought Terry Forster had a better arm than him. 

Edited June 29, 20241 yr by Lip Man 1

Sox should have groomed Kopech to be closer from Day 1, IMO.

15 minutes ago, oldsox said:

Sox should have groomed Kopech to be closer from Day 1, IMO.

He has all of the physical tools to be a #1 starter.  Big arm, big strong frame, fast twitch muscle to spare, 102 top fastball, plus he had an outrageous slider.  By all indications he should have been Paul Skenes before he got here.