https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5628988/2024/07/11/mlb-trade-deadline-latest-30-teams-all-star-break/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail&userId=6062851

1. That's 100% how it should be.
2. I initially read this as they'd be the only two guys they'd trade and was very confused.

Im ok with Crochet not moving. I find it hard to see a deal for him when he is inevitably going to be shut down at some point. It just doesn't make a lot of sense for someone to trade for him now.

I really hope Philly goes balls to the wall for Robert, that would be ideal. Hes the one guy who I would like to just get out of here now instead of waiting for diminishing reasons.

2 minutes ago, Quin said:

1. That's 100% how it should be.
2. I initially read this as they'd be the only two guys they'd trade and was very confused.

I actually broke out the other guys into separate threads for easy discussion... at least until the threadjack happens

22 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5628988/2024/07/11/mlb-trade-deadline-latest-30-teams-all-star-break/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail&userId=6062851

This is exactly what you wanted. You been in Getz’s ear lately or what?

Neither will move then. 

2 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

This is exactly what you wanted. You been in Getz’s ear lately or what?

I really, really, really hope he already knew this.

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

I really, really, really hope he already knew this.

I’m glad you double checked then. Personally, I’m hoping they both get moved later this month.

1 minute ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

I’m glad you double checked then. Personally, I’m hoping they both get moved later this month.

Me too but don’t see it.

2 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

I’m glad you double checked then. Personally, I’m hoping they both get moved later this month.

Double checked?  I have no connection to Chris Getz, other than as an aggrieved fan.

13 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said:

Neither will move then. 

I think both guys are gone in less than 3 wks

Edited July 11, 20241 yr by joejoesox

4 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

I think both guys are gone in less than 3 wks

If they are, Sox fans will be disappointed in the return. 

 

Just now, baseball_gal_aly said:

If they are, Sox fans will be disappointed in the return. 

 

What else is new?

50 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5628988/2024/07/11/mlb-trade-deadline-latest-30-teams-all-star-break/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail&userId=6062851

Good.

This is absolutely unequivocally how Getz should handle those 2 players. 

58 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said:

If they are, Sox fans will be disappointed in the return. 

 

Will you ever stop this endless crusade of pessimism?

I’ll be in the minority and say I don’t agree with the need to “win” trades.  Get what you deem fair value and move on.  Obviously you hold these guys if that doesn’t happen, but needing a team to overpay is a bit extreme IMO.

1 hour ago, baseball_gal_aly said:

If they are, Sox fans will be disappointed in the return. 

 

I think people want highly ranked prospects. My broken record comment is, if you're getting top 20 guys, you're buying high. I think Getz will try to get lower ranked guys who need more polish to get a bit more quantity over "quality". He'll maximize the return that way, and some will be frustrated they don't recognize the names. 

Trade zeem all.

1 hour ago, baseball_gal_aly said:

If they are, Sox fans will be disappointed in the return. 

 

Assuming they are traded, if the Sox don’t get a nice return for Robert, Crochet, and Fedde, it will be Getz’s fault.

I don’t expect much from any of the Sox other “tradable” assets.

1 hour ago, baseball_gal_aly said:

If they are, Sox fans will be disappointed in the return. 

 

Still disappointed by Thorpe as the Cease headliner even though he may outpitch Cease as a rookie this season?

I'm sure a lot of teams are banging down the door to bring in Vaughn, a guy who has career negative WAR.  Really we have two premium assets, one good asset, and a bunch of mid or worthless guy that maybe if you add them all up you can get a dollar for ten dimes. 

If we can't get premium value back for the premium guys just sell off the rest of it and see how the offseason looks. There's no need to rush. Especially if Robert continues to play well and Crochet is going to be basically babied into 50 second half innings if he stays here. We can protect their value and still keep building it.

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I'm sure a lot of teams are banging down the door to bring in Vaughn, a guy who has career negative WAR.  Really we have two premium assets, one good asset, and a bunch of mid or worthless guy that maybe if you add them all up you can get a dollar for ten dimes. 

If we can't get premium value back for the premium guys just sell off the rest of it and see how the offseason looks. There's no need to rush. Especially if Robert continues to play well and Crochet is going to be basically babied into 50 second half innings if he stays here. We can protect their value and still keep building it.

Thankfully a lot of those "mid" guys either come with super cheap deals or some control, or both.  I could truly see any of Banks, Brebbia, Flexen, Kopech, Soroka, DeJong, Lopez, AV, Pham and Sheets moved.  

Pham, Kopech, DeJong, AV, Brebbia and even Banks would/should all return something of interest, imo. 

Guys like Dejong, Pham, and Vaughn etc. get moved all the time at the deadline. 

17 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said:

Guys like Dejong, Pham, and Vaughn etc. get moved all the time at the deadline. 

If you can name me a pre-FA, still on arb negative WAR 1B that has been traded at the deadline please ping me. I'm not sure there's a single one in the history of MLB.