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Crochet Trade Updates (Nightengale)

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1 hour ago, LittleHurtCG said:

This is the same organization that thought Manny Machado would prefer to play one season with his cousin and BFF over 50 million guaranteed dollars. They are not a serious organization at all. There is definte smoke around attaching Beninentdi to a trade for Crochet. 

Forgot that one. Can't get any dumber or mor naive.

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9 minutes ago, bmags said:

If we are this strapped for cash I’d point out Hahn could have easily gotten out of Nicky Lopez after the trade and saved $4.3 million. 

The Bummer trade was a disaster.  Got back a bunch of crap and burned millions.

Meanwhile, if the Braves weren’t competing, they could trade Bummer for a decent prospect haul.  Another fail for Getz.

Edited by WhiteSox2023

33 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

The Bummer trade was a disaster.  Got back a bunch of crap and burned millions.

Meanwhile, if the Braves weren’t competing, they could trade Bummer for a decent prospect haul.  Another fail for Getz.

Have you given up on Riley Gowens!?!? :P

58 minutes ago, nitetrain8601 said:

That's a little inaccurate. Machado had full intentions of going to the White Sox. He thought it would be a done deal, especially with them signing on the Friends and Family plan. With that stated, they played games with the money which you don't do with a HoF in the prime of their career. 

Manny Machado is not a HOF. But yes, the way we negotiated that contract was hilariously inept. 

Edited by Chisoxmb35

Sox have been selling longer than any team but have gotten nothing done.

This means one or two things:

1. Getz has no idea about market value (similar to hahn) and has overplayed his hand badly.

2. The Sox have no idea what to do.

37 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Who else was willing to pay Nicky Lopez $4.3 million?

they could have just non-tendered him, right?

2 minutes ago, Chisoxmb35 said:

Manny Machado is not a HOF.

If he accumulates another 15 war he's top 100 all time. Which will put him in the conversation. No guarantee he gets there though with how he's sliding.

2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Sox have been selling longer than any team but have gotten nothing done.

This means one or two things:

1. Getz has no idea about market value (similar to hahn) and has overplayed his hand badly.

2. The Sox have no idea what to do.

Those are certainly possibilities. But one of the obvious possibilities is we still see a whole bunch of moves.

Just now, KipWellsFan said:

Those are certainly possibilities. But one of the obvious possibilities is we still see a whole bunch of moves.

I don't have data on this, but can't remember a team ever making 5 trades in a day.

Flaherty is getting moved. He was scratched from his start because the tigers aren't run by complete morons. 

11 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Sox have been selling longer than any team but have gotten nothing done.

This means one or two things:

1. Getz has no idea about market value (similar to hahn) and has overplayed his hand badly.

2. The Sox have no idea what to do.

 

4 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Fedde to cardinals

:lolhitting

Via Rosenthal.

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The White Sox are now positioned to move Garrett Crochet after agreeing to send Erick Fedde to the Cardinals in a three-team deal involving the Dodgers. Crochet was on the “back burner” while the White Sox worked on the larger trade, according to a source briefed on their discussions.

That’s not to say Crochet will be dealt. Because he figures to be unavailable for the postseason, some in the industry believe his trade value this winter will be just as high, given his two additional years of club control.

Can't wait for this trade after the Fedde fleecing.

Edited by DirtySox

Crochet and Robert are 100% gone now if that's all it took to get Fedde.

53 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

Via Rosenthal.

Can't wait for this trade after the Fedde fleecing.

They really need to ace that trade after bombing on Fedde. 

Instead they'll get scrubs and Beni salary relief.

Again

at this poitn - maybe that is the best thing. Zero out payroll - get new owner in here - clean absolute house top to bottom.  

7 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

at this poitn - maybe that is the best thing. Zero out payroll - get new owner in here - clean absolute house top to bottom.  

Except there’s only one situation where there’s a new owner, and payroll has nothing to do with it

10 minutes ago, fathom said:

Except there’s only one situation where there’s a new owner, and payroll has nothing to do with it

I've been waiting for this situation for a decade

2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Sox have been selling longer than any team but have gotten nothing done.

This means one or two things:

1. Getz has no idea about market value (similar to hahn) and has overplayed his hand badly.

2. The Sox have no idea what to do.

Why not both?

1 hour ago, DirtySox said:

Via Rosenthal.

Can't wait for this trade after the Fedde fleecing.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

3 hours ago, GREEDY said:

Let's pretend Crochet is serious about an extension that would make sense for both the club and the player.  

The Sox COULD offer an extension along with Garrett controlling precisely how much more he wants to throw this year and next which could theoretically be way less usage than any contending team would push for.  

Sox are about the only team that could justify paying him and babying him for another year (other suitors would presumably be trying to win in 2025).

Maybe there is significant excess value to both parties in that situation.

 

I said it a few days ago, a somewhat competent team being aware of their situation would try and front load a contract for Crochet, giving him his money now and having the last 2 years of his 5 year contract backloaded so they would have resources available to compete in 2027-2028. But we know that won't happen. 

32 minutes ago, Tony said:

I said it a few days ago, a somewhat competent team being aware of their situation would try and front load a contract for Crochet, giving him his money now and having the last 2 years of his 5 year contract backloaded so they would have resources available to compete in 2027-2028. But we know that won't happen. 

Because apparently the Sox are broke.

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

This is something.

 

They’re super pissed at him and will surely trade him.  

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