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5 minutes ago, Iwritecode said:

In fact, wasn't Ozzie's call to the bullpen for the "wide and tall guy" in game 1?

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  • I kind of enjoy the info that Harold provides to the board (for free by the way). All of the bitching and moaning about him and his info is fucking absurd. It would suck if he went away or stopped sha

  • So his opinion is different than the echo chamber on here? Oh the horror. 

  • I would not want to hire anyone dumb enough to take on this job.

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For someone to not remember such enormous aspects of the 2005 playoffs, it makes me think they weren’t actually that into it.

2 hours ago, Iwritecode said:

Rooney's final call of the WS was literally "A ground ball, past Jenks, up the middle of the infield."

To this day I remember that call word for word.  

2 hours ago, MiddleCoastBias said:

And whether that's because we're hiring those that are bad at their jobs or it's just the institutional stench attached to them, no one has gone on to have a coaching career post-managing the Sox since Jerry Manual in 2003.

2024 - Grifol. Should not have been hired and may never be hired again

2022 - Cairo. Interim to end the year, never coached again

2022 - LaRussa. Should not have been hired and frankly should've stayed retired in the first place; will never manage again

2020 - Renteria. Hired as a bridge guy, never coached again

2016 - Ventura. Had to be persuaded to take it, never coached again

2011 - Don Cooper (only a few games). Never coached again after being fired in 2020

2011 - Guillen. One terrible season in Miami, then never coached again

 

If we're looking at guys that want to start their careers, well, we don't have a great history of anyone even getting employed after we touch them. 

Cairo is the bench coach for the Nationals. I’m not going to read the rest of this, someone didn’t do their research 

26 minutes ago, Rowand44 said:

To this day I remember that call word for word.  

I remember watching that play live and having multiple thoughts go through my head in like 2.5 seconds.

OhmygodthatisgoingtobeahitandtheyaregoingtotiethegamenoJenksdon'ttouchitohmygoduribehasitmakeagoodthrowYEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!

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15 minutes ago, Boopa1219 said:

Cairo is the bench coach for the Nationals. I’m not going to read the rest of this, someone didn’t do their research 

In the past 30 seasons, only two White Sox managers ever got another MLB manager job after their tenure with the Sox — Jerry Manuel with the Mets and Ozzie’s ill-fated single season with the Marlins.

The Sox sure know how to pick em.

54 minutes ago, Iwritecode said:

I remember watching that play live and having multiple thoughts go through my head in like 2.5 seconds.

OhmygodthatisgoingtobeahitandtheyaregoingtotiethegamenoJenksdon'ttouchitohmygoduribehasitmakeagoodthrowYEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!

I think that about sums it up haha.

15 hours ago, Boopa1219 said:

If the Sox are looking for a bridge manager, they went about this the wrong way

They can look at whatever they want, but this manager is going to lose 400 games if they make it 4 years.  

15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

They can look at whatever they want, but this manager is going to lose 400 games if they make it 4 years.  

Not if they hire Thome or Harold. They know the players. The team won't be wasting a year.

2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

In the past 30 seasons, only two White Sox managers ever got another MLB manager job after their tenure with the Sox — Jerry Manuel with the Mets and Ozzie’s ill-fated single season with the Marlins.

The Sox sure know how to pick em.

Gene Lamont managed 4 seasons in Pittsburgh after the Sox. Terry Bevington was also a coach for Toronto after leaving. 

36 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Gene Lamont managed 4 seasons in Pittsburgh after the Sox. Terry Bevington was also a coach for Toronto after leaving. 

I meant to go back 25 years, not 30.

Correct on Lamont but Bevington never actually managed a team again after the Sox.  He was just a third base coach for Toronto.

1 hour ago, Dick Allen said:

Not if they hire Thome or Harold. They know the players. The team won't be wasting a year.

And we are stupid enough to try it.

If the Sox wait until after the World Series to make the announcment ,it'll be McCullough.

Getz has been around the Dodgers way of doing things every spring training in Glendale. He's very high up on the list.

38 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

If the Sox wait until after the World Series to make the announcment ,it'll be McCullough.

Getz has been around the Dodgers way of doing things every spring training in Glendale. He's very high up on the list.

The Sox and Getz are just a AAAA team for the Dodgers to rob their last few remaining decent players from.

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10 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

In the past 30 seasons, only two White Sox managers ever got another MLB manager job after their tenure with the Sox — Jerry Manuel with the Mets and Ozzie’s ill-fated single season with the Marlins.

The Sox sure know how to pick em.

Gene Lamont managed the Pirates. 

So, anyone who managed here and went to another team left for an arguably worse franchise each time?

Still doesn’t say much about our choices and what this franchise does to careers.

yea the job prospects post-White Sox career haven’t really panned out for our chosen leaders 

18 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

They can look at whatever they want, but this manager is going to lose 400 games if they make it 4 years.  

that's very rude of you to discount Jacob Amaya and Chuckie Robinson so quickly 

13 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

If the Sox wait until after the World Series to make the announcment ,it'll be McCullough.

Getz has been around the Dodgers way of doing things every spring training in Glendale. He's very high up on the list.

sounds like McCullough is the front runner, I don't think there's really a single stand out guy from my perspective (obviously we don't have the information that Getz has).  I wanted Veneble but ultimately it isn't gonna make much of a difference who they hire

On 10/23/2024 at 9:24 PM, Harold's Leg Lift said:

There could be another name in the mix that hasn't been made public.  

Torborg one of the best managers and to the Mets but over thirty years ago now.

Crazy.

Francona not recognized for the sake of Bevington.

Jim Leyland run off in the 80s.

Meanwhile we get the Wally Backman's Omar Vizquels and yet another villain whose name escapes me.

Wes Helms and Wallace Johnson.

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On 10/23/2024 at 8:24 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said:

There could be another name in the mix that hasn't been made public.  


I assume you can’t mention who the other name is ?

 

Any idea what the hold up is ?

On 10/23/2024 at 6:24 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said:

There could be another name in the mix that hasn't been made public.  

You must be hearing the same thing i am with the Asst SD. Would be something else 

If you're going to be judged vs. past performance, who wouldn't want the Sox job? 62-100 >50% increase. Love it

5 hours ago, joejoesox said:

that's very rude of you to discount Jacob Amaya and Chuckie Robinson so quickly 

Tank Commander Miguel Vargas is insulted. He was brought in to ensure a top pick next year since we couldn't get one this year.

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