2 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

It's a little weird to grab this guy aggressively with a roster spot now when he's coming off TJS, so basically you won't actually get to see him do anything before you decide whether you need the roster spot. In terms of churning, this is a little off - unless they just really like the guy.

I mean he’s a goofy delivery middle reliever with under 3 years of service on a team with plenty of pen and 40 man openings. They must like him. If they find a better use of the roster spot later on this winter, he can always be DFA without any cost. Don’t see the harm. 

2 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

It's a little weird to grab this guy aggressively with a roster spot now when he's coming off TJS, so basically you won't actually get to see him do anything before you decide whether you need the roster spot. In terms of churning, this is a little off - unless they just really like the guy.

Or there are times that it's easier to slip guys through waivers. Like the deadline for players to be added to the 40-man for the Rule 5 draft.

Fine, I guess. Sox are going to be shedding players this offseason, so maybe decent reliever churn. I certainly wouldn’t release anyone to add him, though.

9 hours ago, wegner said:

My top hit was Alexander Cooner....I'm ordering the jersey now!!!

Collin Fuchs for me.

Unusual path to say the least. Good signing compared to most older bullpen guys.

Lachlan Hoogheem, a cousin (by marriage) to Lars Nootbaar

15 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

Decent K rate but otherwise his 2023 numbers look ugly.

Was he down for TJS in 2024? 

Yup, missed 2024 for UCL Reconstruction. That makes this a little weird.

So he had TJS in June of 23, which means his about 15.5 months out of surgery.  He should be at the stage where he is somewhere between ramping up throwing and throwing a max effort depending on if he is the 12 month, or 18 month recovery type.  It also means he will be past his 18 months by spring training.  At it's core it is a low mileage arm with a ton of cheap control for a bullpen that will need like 20 arms this year.  You hold him, and if you want to DFA him for something better, no biggie.

More than likely this guy is DFA’d at some point this offseason.

Yeah, this is one of those acquisitions that I really have no idea why people would be upset over.

If the Sox were making this acquisition out to be some franchise-altering signing worthy of a press release with someone else's signature, that's one thing.... but this is literally a waiver wire pickup of a lottery ticket. Big f'ing whoop.

12 minutes ago, JoeC said:

Yeah, this is one of those acquisitions that I really have no idea why people would be upset over.

If the Sox were making this acquisition out to be some franchise-altering signing worthy of a press release with someone else's signature, that's one thing.... but this is literally a waiver wire pickup of a lottery ticket. Big f'ing whoop.

Not a lot of 23-year-old, high-upside arms with 6 years of control and 3 options coming through the waiver wire. 

I look forward to when the Sox release this guy and people have an an aneurysm when he goes to a decent team and has like a 3.95 era in 45 innings.

19 hours ago, T R U said:

I get that he’s just a body most likely but man there’s no way there isn’t someone more interesting or talented on the waiver wire that might be worth something one day, even if that chance is remote. 

I thought you could sign more than one. 

3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

So he had TJS in June of 23, which means his about 15.5 months out of surgery.  He should be at the stage where he is somewhere between ramping up throwing and throwing a max effort depending on if he is the 12 month, or 18 month recovery type.  It also means he will be past his 18 months by spring training.  At it's core it is a low mileage arm with a ton of cheap control for a bullpen that will need like 20 arms this year.  You hold him, and if you want to DFA him for something better, no biggie.

I wish there was a reasonable expectation that we could get someone better. 

17 minutes ago, Texsox said:

I wish there was a reasonable expectation that we could get someone better. 

Eh, spending assets on good relievers (whether cash or trade) is having a Ferrari in a trailerpark for this team.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Eh, spending assets on good relievers (whether cash or trade) is having a Ferrari in a trailerpark for this team.

Preventing that three run loss from being a blow out isn't worth spending assets 

1 hour ago, Texsox said:

I wish there was a reasonable expectation that we could get someone better. 

I mean, at least this signing won't be the reason we don't get someone better.

5 hours ago, JoeC said:

Yeah, this is one of those acquisitions that I really have no idea why people would be upset over.

If the Sox were making this acquisition out to be some franchise-altering signing worthy of a press release with someone else's signature, that's one thing.... but this is literally a waiver wire pickup of a lottery ticket. Big f'ing whoop.

What's upsetting is this is the same type of move that fueled the worst season in baseball history. I couldn't care less about Penn Murfee, but it would sure be nice to see my favorite team take some swings at anyone who could possibly have a future here one day. 

3 hours ago, Texsox said:

Preventing that three run loss from being a blow out isn't worth spending assets 

Not when this lineup will struggle to score 3 runs of it’s own.  🤣

2 hours ago, JoeC said:

I mean, at least this signing won't be the reason we don't get someone better.

JR not wanting to spend any money this offseason will be the reason.

2 hours ago, T R U said:

What's upsetting is this is the same type of move that fueled the worst season in baseball history. I couldn't care less about Penn Murfee, but it would sure be nice to see my favorite team take some swings at anyone who could possibly have a future here one day. 

So you’re mad that he hasn’t made a positively impactful move, correct?

This is the type of move that happens all the time across all orgs. I’m critical of Getz’s player acquisitions and player personnel decisions, but I fail to see how this waiver pickup is a cause to be upset.

It's November, these are the types of moves they should be making. If he sucks or a roster spot is needed, he's an easy DFA. If he's any good, he's a flippable arm with control. Likely an inconsequential move, but nothing to be upset about.

13 hours ago, JoeC said:

So you’re mad that he hasn’t made a positively impactful move, correct?

This is the type of move that happens all the time across all orgs. I’m critical of Getz’s player acquisitions and player personnel decisions, but I fail to see how this waiver pickup is a cause to be upset.

Just to clarify, im not mad or upset by this. I just don't want to see another season of garbage filtered through the MLB team without taking chances on higher upside players.