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Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread

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yeah that's the dream right there. 

We trade for him and first write-up will be "he's slowing down a lot and probably moving toward a corner, but his power is no longer suggesting that's going to be easy " 

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43 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Huh. I thought Quero and Pratt would be top 100. Guess not.

I think they have the type of deal that about 5 teams could beat if they wanted to.  We really need the type of deal that is almost impossible to beat.

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Alright, so here are my Crochet trade partner power rankings at the moment:

  1. Red Sox - Desperate for impact talent in general, desperate for a TOR starter, and have the positional talent needed to get a deal done
  2. Cubs - President of Baseball Ops in last year of contract, in need of impact talent in general, and have the positional prospects to get a deal done
  3. Phillies - Aggressive GM willing to make a big trade, likely more focused on difference makers that help in October than complimentary pieces, and have the positional talent to get a deal done
  4. Mets - Team appears to be all-in next year with a crazy owner willing to do whatever it takes to win, but lack a true headliner and would have to offer more of a quantity package to get a deal done
  5. Orioles - Desperate need for a TOR starter, but have a GM reluctant to trade high-end prospects and may not have the secondary pieces to get a deal done to our likening
  6. Reds - Looking for impact talent but lack a strong centerpiece and would have to offer a quantity package that likely could be beat by the teams above if interested
7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Alright, so here are my Crochet trade partner power rankings at the moment:

  1. Red Sox - Desperate for impact talent in general, desperate for a TOR starter, and have the positional talent needed to get a deal done
  2. Cubs - President of Baseball Ops in last year of contract, in need of impact talent in general, and have the positional prospects to get a deal done
  3. Phillies - Aggressive GM willing to make a big trade, likely more focused on difference makers that help in October than complimentary pieces, and have the positional talent to get a deal done
  4. Mets - Team appears to be all-in next year with a crazy owner willing to do whatever it takes to win, but lack a true headliner and would have to offer more of a quantity package to get a deal done
  5. Orioles - Desperate need for a TOR starter, but have a GM reluctant to trade high-end prospects and may not have the secondary pieces to get a deal done to our likening
  6. Reds - Looking for impact talent but lack a strong centerpiece and would have to offer a quantity package that likely could be beat by the teams above if interested

And do you think the Yankees/Braves/Brewers fall just behind the Reds' level?

I want the team with the two best major league-ready position players.  Two players who are currently great but blocked would be ideal.  The Cubs seem to have that problem...who else?

16 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

And do you think the Yankees/Braves/Brewers fall just behind the Reds' level?

I really really hope the Braves are not even close to this thing.

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16 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

And do you think the Yankees/Braves/Brewers fall just behind the Reds' level?

Yes, them and the Padres.  I just don’t see any of them being realistic trade partners based on their prospect pool and/or desperate for Crochet.  I think the Yankees buy a SP, likely Fried, before the Winter Meetings are up.  The others may want Crochet, especially the Padres & Braves, but don’t have or are unwilling to trade what it would take.

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5 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I really really hope the Braves are not even close to this thing.

Braves are a bad fit and I don’t see where a three way trade solves that gap.

Brewers scare me as trade partner. Not exactly a depth of high level hitting prospects available. 
 

Made is for sure interesting, but if they don’t trade him we’re probably looking at Pratt and Black as headliners? 
 

3 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Brewers scare me as trade partner. Not exactly a depth of high level hitting prospects available. 
 

Made is for sure interesting, but if they don’t trade him we’re probably looking at Pratt and Black as headliners? 
 

I don't think you can make a deal with the Brewers without Made. Unless you want to double up on catching Queros.

12 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

I don't think you can make a deal with the Brewers without Made. Unless you want to double up on catching Queros.

Jesus Made?  He’s got to be good right?

8 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Jesus Made?  He’s got to be good right?

He gets us

29 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

I don't think you can make a deal with the Brewers without Made. Unless you want to double up on catching Queros.

I don't know what Schriffen would do with this info, but I know I'd hate it 

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

I think they have the type of deal that about 5 teams could beat if they wanted to.  We really need the type of deal that is almost impossible to beat.

If people are truly hell bent on acquiring prospects with star potential but extreme risk, Jesus Made fits the bill. He has greater upside than Mayer imo.

7 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

If people are truly hell bent on acquiring prospects with star potential but extreme risk, Jesus Made fits the bill. He has greater upside than Mayer imo.

Do you think it is a a bit scary to go all in on a guy that young?

Jesus Made was 80 in BA's end of year update, not sure if that was mentioned.

22 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Do you think it is a a bit scary to go all in on a guy that young?

It wouldn’t be all in because I think a package from the Brewers would include him, Pratt, and a couple other prospects.

26 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

If people are truly hell bent on acquiring prospects with star potential but extreme risk, Jesus Made fits the bill. He has greater upside than Mayer imo.

I would be ok with this as well. It's buying very early but what is available for more mature talent is a lot of guys that are facing injury or rough years.

Made, Pratt, Yophery/i Rodriguez are all pretty interesting, and a guy like Misiorowski is someone the sox should look at as "we can make this work" more than most orgs.

37 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Do you think it is a a bit scary to go all in on a guy that young?

Well, that's where we have to hope and pray that we have hired better scouting and player development than the last group.

17 minutes ago, bmags said:

I would be ok with this as well. It's buying very early but what is available for more mature talent is a lot of guys that are facing injury or rough years.

Made, Pratt, Yophery/i Rodriguez are all pretty interesting, and a guy like Misiorowski is someone the sox should look at as "we can make this work" more than most orgs.

Yes and the timeline on those guys would align well with the Sox top 3 draft pick in 2026. The idea should be to have waves of young talent moving through the system rather than trying to get every single prospect’s timeline to align with Montgomery and Quero. Then once they have built a real young core of mlb talent I wouldn’t mind targeting prospects that are mlb ready. I don’t think they’re there yet.

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Whisox05 said:

 

 

jesus if you are on a baseball message board enough that first word you'll assume is a typo for padres and then think there is a prospect named Parades (pronounced in a spanish-esque puh-rah-des") that you don't know. Took me a longtime to realize this is the red sox and that is about world series parades

 

3 hours ago, DirtySox said:

They were. Not sure where they stand with new top 10 rankings though. Jesus Made is the Brewers number one prospect now.

 

That is a really interesting update.  Maybe the Brewers can get into the conversation if they are willing to start with him and 2-3 of the rest of their top 5 while at the same time teams like the Red Sox and Orioles aren't willing to include their top guys.

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