December 13, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Before he fouled a ball off his shin this year, Tucker was otherworldly, he was on a path to the AL MVP award with a shot at 50+ home runs. If you see that player again next year, I could seem him maybe even pushing close to $500 million. I have no concept of what it would take for the Cubs to extend him right now. That's why I said might EASILY get $350M .My conservation guess was at 29 yrs old to start the 2026 season he'd get 10 years $35-40M per season. Easily could be more.
December 13, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, nrockway said: I’m not so sure. Maybe. But am I wrong that the cubs gave up more for 1 year of Tucker than the Yankees did for 1 year of Soto? I don’t remember what they traded. Soto and Grisham for King, Thorpe, Randy Velasquez, Higashioka, and Jhony Brito. So, 5 guys. Two of them with very little control. Yanks also took a bad contract. Can't say which is more.
December 13, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, nrockway said: I’m not so sure. Maybe. But am I wrong that the cubs gave up more for 1 year of Tucker than the Yankees did for 1 year of Soto? I don’t remember what they traded. The Yankees gave up catcher Kyle Higashioka, who was important for the Padres this year, 3 pitchers who were on the edge of the big leagues including Michael King who put up 4 WAR for the Padres this year and looks like a solid rotation piece for them next year, and one minor league pitcher - Drew Thorpe. Yea, that one. Michael King didn't have a lot of control left, but the padres got a lot out of him last year by moving him to full time starter. I'm not sure that its heavily in either direction.
December 13, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: That's why I said might EASILY get $350M .My conservation guess was at 29 yrs old to start the 2026 season he'd get 10 years $35-40M per season. Easily could be more. I think the .850 OPS, 5-WAR per year player the Astros had from 2021-2023 is a $350 million player. Last year, he took a jump to a 1.000 OPS.
December 13, 20241 yr I know Tucker is only a rental and his surplus value is limited because of that, but I expected the Astros to get more. Paredes was terrible for the Cubs last year. His only true value is that he's under control for 3 more years. Maybe he'll be better hitting in Houston, but this feels like Houston cheaping out by neither signing Tucker or Bregman. Replacing Paredes with an MVP caliber player in Tucker is huge for the Cubs. And they really had to let go of one of their top prospects for him. If they can get Tucker extended that's a big get for them.
December 13, 20241 yr It's a shame when you think that Kyle Tucker is a better baseball player than anyone the White Sox have had in years - probably decades.
December 13, 20241 yr 37 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: I don’t think they’re very comparable in terms of both player quality and contract status, so I’d say it doesn’t tell much Does this put more pressure on the Reds to make a big splash on Robert?
December 13, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, chw42 said: I know Tucker is only a rental and his surplus value is limited because of that, but I expected the Astros to get more. Paredes was terrible for the Cubs last year. His only true value is that he's under control for 3 more years. Maybe he'll be better hitting in Houston, but this feels like Houston cheaping out by neither signing Tucker or Bregman. Replacing Paredes with an MVP caliber player in Tucker is huge for the Cubs. And they really had to let go of one of their top prospects for him. If they can get Tucker extended that's a big get for them. Houston is definitely calling it quits/going cheap by letting both of these guys go. But they went to $255 million in payroll last year, Tucker and Bregman alone easily push them to $250 million+ this year with no extra additions, and their team last year just wasn't great. There was a lot of unhappiness at this fanbase when they traded away a couple of minor prospects last year because the fanbase could tell they needed some young guys and those young guys helped when they arrived. They're going cheap, but they're also filling multiple holes with a single deal. I think this city was mostly prepped for that. They're cheaper now, they're cheaper still if they trade Framber, but that leaves them room to spend elsewhere.
December 13, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: So effectively it is Morel, Bigge, Johnson, Wesneski, and Smith for one year of Tucker? Seems like a lot. Stars aren’t cheap. Now they have one.
December 13, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Does this put more pressure on the Reds to make a big splash on Robert? Hopefully.
December 13, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Stars aren’t cheap. Now they have one. Have to imagine Tucker is destined for free agency after the 2025 season The money too gigantic to not
December 13, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Stars aren’t cheap. Now they have one. For 10 months, yes they do.
December 13, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: For 10 months, yes they do. I can’t imagine the Cubs not resigning Tucker after the total price, but you have to think the Yankees will be gunning for him as well next offseason.
December 13, 20241 yr Cubs gonna trade for a big name pitcher it sounds like. Cease is a possibility.
December 13, 20241 yr 39 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: It's a shame when you think that Kyle Tucker is a better baseball player than anyone the White Sox have had in years - probably decades. Decades? Calm down.
December 13, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Cubs gonna trade for a big name pitcher it sounds like. Cease is a possibility. Caulfield in shambles.
December 13, 20241 yr Author 1 hour ago, Ducksnort said: If I was a team potentially wanting Robert I'd be looking at him holistically. 1 great season. The rest, eh. And mostly due to injury. Moncada, while obviously a completely different player, also had one great season. The rest, eh, filled with injuries. No one's chomping at the bit for him in free agency. I hope Robert proves me wrong but history tells me he's likely missing at least 50-60 games and when he's playing he can't play up to his abilities because of a nagging injury affecting him. That's probably what most gm's are thinking. The difference is Robert has always been good prior to last season even when dealing with injuries. That’s not the case with Moncada, who also lost a lot of his power post COVID. They are very different situations to be honest.
December 13, 20241 yr Which of Sale or Quintana did we turn down a Tucker focused trade for? I remember he was almost on our team somehow.
December 13, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, fathom said: Cubs gonna trade for a big name pitcher it sounds like. Cease is a possibility. Do the Padres get a better package than the Sox did?
December 13, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, Quin said: Caulfield in shambles. Fine...if they can sell really high on Cease, like the Astros just did with Tucker. Otherwise, you're a team with six $100+ million contracts in Darvish (through 28), Machado, Tatis, Cronenworth, Bogaerts, Musgrove (TJS and signed through 27) going nowhere fast. Merrill might also be looking at an extension. If you're trading Cease, then why hold on to Michael King as well with limited control? If you don't intend to compete with the LAD and no longer worry about keeping your job (Preller) and keeping your sellouts...trade both those pitchers and put Darvish on the market as well if anyone will bite, because past trades and lack minors depth mean you now have to completely rebuild that rotation from scratch. In that sense, Sasaki to SD makes as much sense as anywhere not NY/LA/SF/Boston/Tor, along with Seattle and the Cubs. Edited December 13, 20241 yr by caulfield12
December 13, 20241 yr 43 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I can’t imagine the Cubs not resigning Tucker after the total price, but you have to think the Yankees will be gunning for him as well next offseason. I can imagine it
December 13, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: I can imagine it In the same way the risk with a Bellinger extension was too high...the cost for Tucker will be in the stratosphere with a 6-8 fWAR season. Cardinals are already retrenching from Goldschmidt/Arenado years. The opportunity is certainly there for Cincy or the Cubs with their farm, but Milwaukee starts out the clear favorite until someone unseats them.
December 13, 20241 yr 23 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: In the same way the risk with a Bellinger extension was too high...the cost for Tucker will be in the stratosphere with a 6-8 fWAR season. Cardinals are already retrenching from Goldschmidt/Arenado years. The opportunity is certainly there for Cincy or the Cubs with their farm, but Milwaukee starts out the clear favorite until someone unseats them. Wasn’t it a lock Soto would resign with the Yanks when they traded for him last winter?
December 13, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Wasn’t it a lock Soto would resign with the Yanks when they traded for him last winter? Not without George Steinbrenner running things...
December 13, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: The Yankees gave up catcher Kyle Higashioka, who was important for the Padres this year, 3 pitchers who were on the edge of the big leagues including Michael King who put up 4 WAR for the Padres this year and looks like a solid rotation piece for them next year, and one minor league pitcher - Drew Thorpe. Yea, that one. Michael King didn't have a lot of control left, but the padres got a lot out of him last year by moving him to full time starter. I'm not sure that its heavily in either direction. I'm confusing Wesneski with Horton in these posts. My bad. Please ignore.
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