Eder, Fletcher DFA'd , Thorpe to the 60 day IL

[WhiteSox2023]

27 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Getz would have no reason to make promises to guys playing for other teams. They are playing on the Sox. 

My point was and is the same as @Look at Ray Ray Run’s.  Tauchman and Slater are vets that signed for under $2 million.  They didn’t even sign for good backup money (~$5 million).  They are in no position to expect guaranteed playing time and Getz would have no reason to promise it to them.  Afterall, if the entire strategy is to sign vets as placeholders until prospects are ready to take over, wouldn’t that be a ridiculous guarantee for Getz to make to these guys and work against his own plan?

Besides, you are usually the one that shoots down speculation with no proof.  You are doing the exact same thing here.  There is literally no reason to believe what you are saying right now that Slater was guaranteed playing time, unless you can show some sort of evidence of his contract details.  You are STRETCHING more than Hawk ever did.

Edited March 28 by WhiteSox2023

[JoeC]

On 3/27/2025 at 12:43 PM, Buehrle>Wood said:

Everyone here defending the Burger trade lost. I won the message board argument. Acknowledge me.

Actually, I found flaw in your logic here.

You're pointing to a decision the Sox made as positive evidence for your argument.

[WhiteSox2023]

6 minutes ago, JoeC said:

Actually, I found flaw in your logic here.

You're pointing to a decision the Sox made as positive evidence for your argument.

Good point.  They have probably been wrong more than the SoxTalk majority’s thoughts.  🤣 

[Tnetennba]

1 hour ago, Nardiwashere said:

Why did SoxTalk turn into an Alexander Canario themed message board?  How good is this guy that there are 3 threads during opening week devoted to talking about him?  

He's the random castoff flavor of the week. Getz will stick to his beloved washed up vets, and Canario will go somewhere else and have little impact, yet still out-produce anyone he would have replaced here. Much to the consternation of few.

[WhiteSox2023]

18 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

He's the random castoff flavor of the week. Getz will stick to his beloved washed up vets, and Canario will go somewhere else and have little impact, yet still out-produce anyone he would have replaced here. Much to the consternation of few.

I don’t know.  He’s more than likely better than Fletcher, Getz’s intended 2024 starting RF, and he only cost the Mets some cash considerations rather than a Mena.

Edited March 28 by WhiteSox2023

[WestEddy]

44 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

My point was and is the same as @Look at Ray Ray Run’s.  Tauchman and Slater are vets that signed for under $2 million.  They didn’t even sign for good backup money (~$5 million).  They are in no position to expect guaranteed playing time and Getz would have no reason to promise it to them.  Afterall, if the entire strategy is to sign vets as placeholders until prospects are ready to take over, wouldn’t that be a ridiculous guarantee for Getz to make to these guys and work against his own plan?

Besides, you are usually the one that shoots down speculation with no proof.  You are doing the exact same thing here.  There is literally no reason to believe what you are saying right now that Slater was guaranteed playing time, unless you can show some sort of evidence of his contract details.  You are STRETCHING more than Hawk ever did.

Here are a few things I hold to be true:

1) Getz did not see DeLoach, Fletcher or Colas as long-term solutions, anymore. Proof? He DFAed all three off the 40-man roster at the risk of losing them to make room for other players. 
2) While the Sox do have upper level OF "depth", the prospects they might consider important are still a few levels away. Proof? DeLoach, Colas, Cal Mitchell, Greg Jones and Corey Julks are the OFers at AAA. 
3) The Sox entered the off-season with a plan to form a platoon in RF, with a capable veteran backing up CF. Proof? They signed Slater and Tauchman early to major league deals. They also signed Michael A. Taylor to a major league deal. 
4) The Sox didn't have to guarantee Slater playing time. They guaranteed him a full year's salary once he made the opening day roster. The buzz was that Fuller worked with him last year and thought he could be "fixed". Why do you think they should shelve that just to bring some non-prospect aboard? Notice that for as great as you're pumping Canario up to be right now, he was never in 7 years of minor league baseball ranked as high a prospect as Oscar Colas or even Greg Jones was. 

I'm not sure why you're getting salty about "speculation", which is the only thing that is driving the conversation that Canario is a credible OF option that won't be OPSing .550 after 6 weeks. 

You saw the many online scouting reports on Canario that show him to be an exploitable hitter. The fact they didn't jump on him in spring training when they could just DFA Colas and observe him for 6 weeks tells me they didn't see him as a viable option to spend time and resources on. 

 

[ChiSox59]

47 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

He's the random castoff flavor of the week. Getz will stick to his beloved washed up vets, and Canario will go somewhere else and have little impact, yet still out-produce anyone he would have replaced here. Much to the consternation of few.

While I would be fine claiming Canario, the guy would just K 40% of the time. I do look forward to the threads posted here in a few weeks when he hits a homer and someone takes a victory lap. 

[WhiteSox2023]

35 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Here are a few things I hold to be true:

1) Getz did not see DeLoach, Fletcher or Colas as long-term solutions, anymore. Proof? He DFAed all three off the 40-man roster at the risk of losing them to make room for other players. 
2) While the Sox do have upper level OF "depth", the prospects they might consider important are still a few levels away. Proof? DeLoach, Colas, Cal Mitchell, Greg Jones and Corey Julks are the OFers at AAA. 
3) The Sox entered the off-season with a plan to form a platoon in RF, with a capable veteran backing up CF. Proof? They signed Slater and Tauchman early to major league deals. They also signed Michael A. Taylor to a major league deal. 
4) The Sox didn't have to guarantee Slater playing time. They guaranteed him a full year's salary once he made the opening day roster. The buzz was that Fuller worked with him last year and thought he could be "fixed". Why do you think they should shelve that just to bring some non-prospect aboard? Notice that for as great as you're pumping Canario up to be right now, he was never in 7 years of minor league baseball ranked as high a prospect as Oscar Colas or even Greg Jones was. 

I'm not sure why you're getting salty about "speculation", which is the only thing that is driving the conversation that Canario is a credible OF option that won't be OPSing .550 after 6 weeks. 

You saw the many online scouting reports on Canario that show him to be an exploitable hitter. The fact they didn't jump on him in spring training when they could just DFA Colas and observe him for 6 weeks tells me they didn't see him as a viable option to spend time and resources on. 

 

So why did Getz acquire a dude that strikes out at an even higher clip than Canario without as much power?  35% to 38% strikeout rate.  Talk about exploitable.  Dude has no shot.

So in your opinion, why was Jones good enough to acquire for Getz, but not Canario?  Baldwin would be younger and better utility guy than Jones, no?

Edited March 29 by WhiteSox2023

[WestEddy]

16 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

So why did Getz acquire a dude that strikes out at an even higher clip than Canario without as much power?  35% to 38%.  Talk about exploitable.  Dude has no shot.

He's faster, a very good defender and has an option. If Canario had any options left, he'd probably be on the Cubs' AAA team. Jones is CF depth. All Getz did there was upgrade the "next man up" in AAA from Fletcher, who's limited in CF and hasn't hit, to Jones, who has elite speed, and can cover CF. 

Edited March 29 by WestEddy

[WhiteSox2023]

27 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

He's faster, a very good defender and has an option. If Canario had any options left, he'd probably be on the Cubs' AAA team. Jones is CF depth. All Getz did there was upgrade the "next man up" in AAA from Fletcher, who's limited in CF and hasn't hit, to Jones, who has elite speed, and can cover CF. 

He can’t hit a lick.  He’s Billy Hamilton that plays more positions.  Dude will likely never see the majors.  If he does, it will likely be short-lived.  A 35 to 38 percent K rate in the minors is insane.

Edited March 29 by WhiteSox2023

[WestEddy]

19 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

He can’t hit a lick.  He’s Billy Hamilton that plays more positions.  Dude will likely never see the majors.  If he does, it will likely be short-lived.  A 35 to 38 percent K rate in the minors is insane.

So there's really no reason to compare Jones to Canario. Jones can back up CF in the bigs for a week, and they see if they can work on his chase rates in AAA. Canario's a different player who is out of options, and looks like a AAAA player, no matter how much MLBTR wants to hype him as a waiver wire steal. 

Billy Hamilton has value. 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

On 3/27/2025 at 1:00 PM, WhiteSox2023 said:

There is only one Original Tribal Chief, and you ain’t it.

You hate that I know what going on with the Sox more than anyone who routinely make predictions about where things are going.

Someone gave the link to the Burger trade thread and I've been reading it and wow not only where a lot of over confident people dead wrong on that trade but they doubled down  thinking Eloy would get his option picked up for 2025.

I made some posts on August 1, 2023 that basically predicted the future with nearly 100% accuracy. T R U should be hiding his head he was so wrong instead of asking why anyone is taking victory laps . He just keeps doubling down like he's been right all along. He was so wrong and I wouldn't point it out except he's been so arrogant. He needs to reread how wrong he was . I know u won't go to that thread and read my August 1st 2023 posts but I made 3 posts almost in a row on that date and it's like I had a crystal ball.

Usually I tell everyone that it was apparent it was a rebuild by Dec of 2023 or Jan of 24  so why anyone was shocked the Sox were so bad in 2024 is just people feeling betrayed that the Sox were covering up the rebuild by not calling it a rebuild so people listened to the BS and took it to heart .

I called it a rebuild Aug 1 ,2023 after the trades. It was as plain as the nose on your face. I predicted there was a good chance Eloy would be gone, Moncada Anderson too and also predicted Vaughn would probably still be here in 2025 still hoping for a breakout year. I'm pretty damn good at reading the tea leaves . It's not that hard when you know how the owner operates.

I had Tray laughing at my posts because he loves Eloy. TRU was telling me the Sox would pick up Eloy's option because we couldn't get what he provided anywhere else for the same price . What ? I mean seriously,what ? Idk maybe it just wasn't apparent to some people that Eloy was a huge waste of money in August of 2023 .

[Bob Sacamano]

12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

You hate that I know what going on with the Sox more than anyone who routinely make predictions about where things are going.

Someone gave the link to the Burger trade thread and I've been reading it and wow not only where a lot of over confident people dead wrong on that trade but they doubled down  thinking Eloy would get his option picked up for 2025.

I made some posts on August 1, 2023 that basically predicted the future with nearly 100% accuracy. T R U should be hiding his head he was so wrong instead of asking why anyone is taking victory laps . He just keeps doubling down like he's been right all along. He was so wrong and I wouldn't point it out except he's been so arrogant. He needs to reread how wrong he was . I know u won't go to that thread and read my August 1st 2023 posts but I made 3 posts almost in a row on that date and it's like I had a crystal ball.

Usually I tell everyone that it was apparent it was a rebuild by Dec of 2023 or Jan of 24  so why anyone was shocked the Sox were so bad in 2024 is just people feeling betrayed that the Sox were covering up the rebuild by not calling it a rebuild so people listened to the BS and took it to heart .

I called it a rebuild Aug 1 ,2023 after the trades. It was as plain as the nose on your face. I predicted there was a good chance Eloy would be gone, Moncada Anderson too and also predicted Vaughn would probably still be here in 2025 still hoping for a breakout year. I'm pretty damn good at reading the tea leaves . It's not that hard when you know how the owner operates.

I had Tray laughing at my posts because he loves Eloy. TRU was telling me the Sox would pick up Eloy's option because we couldn't get what he provided anywhere else for the same price . What ? I mean seriously,what ? Idk maybe it just wasn't apparent to some people that Eloy was a huge waste of money in August of 2023 .

God I’m so happy we’re past the previous era. I was thinking about Eloy the other day and thought, damn what a terrible baseball player. 

[WhiteSox2023]

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

You hate that I know what going on with the Sox more than anyone who routinely make predictions about where things are going.

Someone gave the link to the Burger trade thread and I've been reading it and wow not only where a lot of over confident people dead wrong on that trade but they doubled down  thinking Eloy would get his option picked up for 2025.

I made some posts on August 1, 2023 that basically predicted the future with nearly 100% accuracy. T R U should be hiding his head he was so wrong instead of asking why anyone is taking victory laps . He just keeps doubling down like he's been right all along. He was so wrong and I wouldn't point it out except he's been so arrogant. He needs to reread how wrong he was . I know u won't go to that thread and read my August 1st 2023 posts but I made 3 posts almost in a row on that date and it's like I had a crystal ball.

Usually I tell everyone that it was apparent it was a rebuild by Dec of 2023 or Jan of 24  so why anyone was shocked the Sox were so bad in 2024 is just people feeling betrayed that the Sox were covering up the rebuild by not calling it a rebuild so people listened to the BS and took it to heart .

I called it a rebuild Aug 1 ,2023 after the trades. It was as plain as the nose on your face. I predicted there was a good chance Eloy would be gone, Moncada Anderson too and also predicted Vaughn would probably still be here in 2025 still hoping for a breakout year. I'm pretty damn good at reading the tea leaves . It's not that hard when you know how the owner operates.

I had Tray laughing at my posts because he loves Eloy. TRU was telling me the Sox would pick up Eloy's option because we couldn't get what he provided anywhere else for the same price . What ? I mean seriously,what ? Idk maybe it just wasn't apparent to some people that Eloy was a huge waste of money in August of 2023 .

I’m pretty sure you didn’t get the reference in my post, which is fine.  It was a little obscure.  @Buehrle>Wood got it.

So you actually went back in time to document this all out because you truly think you are Nostradamus when it comes to the White Sox?  Congrats…  I guess?  Those stellar predictions about a terrible franchise might earn you a free cup of coffee somewhere.

Are you tired from patting your own back, Zoltar?  Or perhaps you would prefer Miss Cleo?  The night isn’t over yet, may as well light another one up and make some new predictions!  🚬 

Edited March 29 by WhiteSox2023

[Bob Sacamano]

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

So there's really no reason to compare Jones to Canario. Jones can back up CF in the bigs for a week, and they see if they can work on his chase rates in AAA. Canario's a different player who is out of options, and looks like a AAAA player, no matter how much MLBTR wants to hype him as a waiver wire steal. 

Billy Hamilton has value. 

Billy Hamilton is out of baseball

[DoUEvenShift]

8 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Billy Hamilton is out of baseball

dafuq u say?

[WestEddy]

17 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Billy Hamilton is out of baseball

Okay, a guy like Billy Hamilton HAD value. 

[Tnetennba]

3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I don’t know.  He’s more than likely better than Fletcher, Getz’s intended 2024 starting RF, and he only cost the Mets some cash considerations rather than a Mena.

Notice how I said he'd likely out produce guys here? Getz should have claimed the dude already, and should be giving as many guys like Canario a shot over the 30 something crowd that have no future here. But he's incompetent, so he won't. I have zero expectations for Getz to make smart moves like this. But I'm not going to lament passing on a fringe guy that would likely be burried here just the same. 

[WhiteSox2023]

39 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Notice how I said he'd likely out produce guys here? Getz should have claimed the dude already, and should be giving as many guys like Canario a shot over the 30 something crowd that have no future here. But he's incompetent, so he won't. I have zero expectations for Getz to make smart moves like this. But I'm not going to lament passing on a fringe guy that would likely be burried here just the same. 

Agreed.  This is where I disagree with @Chicago White Sox a bit.  His argument is that Tauchman/Slater could be worth 2-4 more wins.  He’s probably right.  And I would agree that playing those guys would make sense if this looked like at least a .500 team that might do something.  But they will likely be bad so I’d rather play a young guy to see what he can do, even if he ends up busting.  You aren’t gaining much going from 100 losses to 96.  But @Chicago White Sox did say he would still claim Canario and likely play him alongside the Tauchman/Slater combo, which could be an improvement to the lineup.  The downside is that Canario absolutely sucks and you lose a couple more games due to him — but would that really be that big of a deal in the grand scheme of the season and the Sox rebuild?

Edited March 29 by WhiteSox2023

[tray]

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

You hate that I know what going on with the Sox more than anyone who routinely make predictions about where things are going.

Someone gave the link to the Burger trade thread and I've been reading it and wow not only where a lot of over confident people dead wrong on that trade but they doubled down  thinking Eloy would get his option picked up for 2025.

I made some posts on August 1, 2023 that basically predicted the future with nearly 100% accuracy. T R U should be hiding his head he was so wrong instead of asking why anyone is taking victory laps . He just keeps doubling down like he's been right all along. He was so wrong and I wouldn't point it out except he's been so arrogant. He needs to reread how wrong he was . I know u won't go to that thread and read my August 1st 2023 posts but I made 3 posts almost in a row on that date and it's like I had a crystal ball.

Usually I tell everyone that it was apparent it was a rebuild by Dec of 2023 or Jan of 24  so why anyone was shocked the Sox were so bad in 2024 is just people feeling betrayed that the Sox were covering up the rebuild by not calling it a rebuild so people listened to the BS and took it to heart .

I called it a rebuild Aug 1 ,2023 after the trades. It was as plain as the nose on your face. I predicted there was a good chance Eloy would be gone, Moncada Anderson too and also predicted Vaughn would probably still be here in 2025 still hoping for a breakout year. I'm pretty damn good at reading the tea leaves . It's not that hard when you know how the owner operates.

I had Tray laughing at my posts because he loves Eloy. TRU was telling me the Sox would pick up Eloy's option because we couldn't get what he provided anywhere else for the same price . What ? I mean seriously,what ? Idk maybe it just wasn't apparent to some people that Eloy was a huge waste of money in August of 2023 .

Eloy fell far short of expectations but he wasn't the sole reason for the 100+ losses. I'm not going to re-litigate 2023, 2024 or try to score points with old arguments. Your calls and your tea leaf reads are useless braggadocio at this point. .  This is 2025 and we are trying to look ahead. Can you?

[WhiteSox2023]

20 minutes ago, tray said:

Eloy fell far short of expectations but he wasn't the sole reason for the 100+ losses. I'm not going to re-litigate 2023, 2024 or try to score points with old arguments. Your calls and your tea leaf reads are useless braggadocio at this point. .  This is 2025 and we are trying to look ahead. Can you?

In hindsight, it would be interesting if we could go back in time and Hahn forced Eloy to primarily be a DH to protect his bat, right from the start.

I remember reading Cubs message boards when the Sox first acquired Eloy and they said that Eloy wasn’t a very good defender in the minors with the Cubs and that he was getting banged up playing the outfield.  The guy hit 31 homers with an .828 OPS in his rookie season so the hitting talent was definitely there…

Edited March 29 by WhiteSox2023

[Lip Man 1]

47 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

In hindsight, it would be interesting if we could go back in time and Hahn forced Eloy to primarily be a DH to protect his bat, right from the start.

I remember reading Cubs message boards when the Sox first acquired Eloy and they said that Eloy wasn’t a very good defender in the minors with the Cubs and that he was getting banged up playing the outfield.  The guy hit 31 homers with an .828 OPS in his rookie season so the hitting talent was definitely there…

I was told by an individual that Hahn got royally pissed off when he started hearing that the Cubs were basically laughing at him for taking Eloy in the first place. They supposedly were telling other baseball people that Eloy had severe limitations. 

[WhiteSox2023]

1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

I was told by an individual that Hahn got royally pissed off when he started hearing that the Cubs were basically laughing at him for taking Eloy in the first place. They supposedly were telling other baseball people that Eloy had severe limitations. 

Well, the inclusion of Cease alone made it a bad trade for the Cubs.  Q didn’t do much for the Cubs and they would have been better off seeing what Cease could do.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

3 hours ago, tray said:

Eloy fell far short of expectations but he wasn't the sole reason for the 100+ losses. I'm not going to re-litigate 2023, 2024 or try to score points with old arguments. Your calls and your tea leaf reads are useless braggadocio at this point. .  This is 2025 and we are trying to look ahead. Can you?

Brother I look ahead better than anyone. Anyone who reads my posts knows I'm always posting about the positive things going on on not focusing on the 121 loss season like a child because I'm ashamed to wear my Sox hat now and be associated with that terrible team.

I get it , no one likes to be wrong, so yes, no one likes me saying I was right. But if you're going to call other people baseball stupid or act incredulous about why so many Sox fans didn't like that Burger trade then act like Eloy was so much better on top of it then yea I might let you know that it's one thing to stick to your arguments but you can do it without being pigheaded about it even now when you so clearly lost every argument you made .

I don't think it's a bad thing to like certain players . But don't let it blind you .Remember you were laughing at me and my opinions  that turned out very right as if they were very wrong. I didn't laugh at you did I ? Don't use those emojis if you don't want me to find it later when it comes up again.

I even acknowledged several times in that thread that the others had a point about why it was a good trade because objectively I could see it working out either way.

I liked Burger like you liked Eloy but it didn't blind me about his faults but I also recognized that he was very committed to using every tool at his disposal to try to be better . So yes if he only ended up with 5 or 10 WAR in his career that could still be way more than a 25 yr old minor league pitcher trying to work his way back from surgery. And I clearly didn't think the Sox had an over abundance of RH power like Hahn ended up saying about dealing from a position of strength . I thought more highly of Burger than I did Eloy because he had more control, cost a lot less and was producing more. I was never arrogant about my position .At the time I said several times it was a good trade and it was only in reading the old thread that I was like wow some people were dead wrong  acting like they were the smartest people in the room at the time. I had no idea I had so accurately predicted what was coming .I just wanted to reread the thread to see what I said because those Burger trade arguments went on a long time.

Eder never really gave those who thought it was a great trade any hope but somehow they still think at worst it was a toss up ? Come on now . Burger doesn't have to be all world to admit it ended up being a bad trade and ultimately the inability of Eloy,Moncada and Robert to produce at all in 2024 is a big part of what led to that terrible record. So yes I feel good that nothing I said agreed with anything that led to that terrible record and accurately saw things were not getting better they were getting worse no matter what Hahn and Jerry and other posters believed about what was going to happen in 2024. The writing was on the wall right after the 2023 All Star break.

3 weeks later Hahn and Williams were fired. A little over a week after that Reinsdorf named Getz to replace Hahn and Williams. Then JR started spewing BS about a quick turnaround and people believed him . It became painfully obvious later when he wasn't giving Getz any money to spend in January of 2024 that it was a rebuild . I always thought anything Getz said about competing  was him just being a good soldier and not wanting to lose his job by throwing JR under the bus. I never took anything Getz said to heart. Didn't believe a word of it. So yes I'm not too hard on Getz because JR hung him out to dry from the get go talking about a quick turnaround then not giving him any money to back up those words. On top of all that Getz had to keep cutting  salary. Other GMs had him at a disadvantage knowing he was dumping salary and JR was basically preparing the team to be sold while buying up parking structures around the United Center. He cared more about partnering up with the Blackhawks then he did about the White Sox. At least he might've paved the way for Justin Ishbia to buy the Sox. We'll see if that actually happens or if Ishbia backs out like he did with the Twins. With Jerry I pretty much don't trust anything that looks too good to be true or much of anything at all that come out of his mouth.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

5 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I’m pretty sure you didn’t get the reference in my post, which is fine.  It was a little obscure.  @Buehrle>Wood got it.

So you actually went back in time to document this all out because you truly think you are Nostradamus when it comes to the White Sox?  Congrats…  I guess?  Those stellar predictions about a terrible franchise might earn you a free cup of coffee somewhere.

Are you tired from patting your own back, Zoltar?  Or perhaps you would prefer Miss Cleo?  The night isn’t over yet, may as well light another one up and make some new predictions!  🚬 

Who ever gets tired of being right ? You can makes lot of money that way if you have similar instincts about the stock market or gambling.

One of my Daddy's favorites sayings was don't break your arm patting yourself on your back. I'd tell him someone's got to do it. And we'd laugh about it.

There's a difference between making arguments to support your position and trying to make yourself look like the smartest person in the room all the time by never giving an inch in an argument and being fair about it and saying yes you have a point there.

I don't think you even existed on this website in August of 2023 unless you changed your screen name. I didn't see your opinions anywhere in the 1st 10 pages of that 27 page thread. 

You post like a know-it- all all the time .I post like a know-it all after I discover I predict a lot of things accurately but I generally try to acknowledge when others are making a good argument like I did calling  the Burger trade a good trade even though I didn't like it very much. I don't care for people very much who never give an inch because it shows weakness or obscures their losing arguments. No one can bully me . This isn't grade school . There is no fear of being unpopular on a message board as full of meatball takes as much as X or sports talk radio.

You can call me Carnac the Magnificent. The Answer is Sweet and Sour Shrimp. What is the question ?

What do you call a moody midget ? 🤣

That was actually from the old Tonight Show skit with Ed McMahon and Johnny Carson.