hogan873 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Sosa has quietly been a pretty solid player, especially at the plate. His defense still leaves a bit to be desired, but he'll likely get better with regular exposure at 2B. The Sox have three of the four IF positions covered for a while. First base is still up in the air. Elko is better than Vaughn but neither are going to give you a decent BA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 13 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: 92 wRC+ now. Funny thing is his iso is only .123. I bet if he stays healthy he ticks that up over .150 by year's end. I'm thinking 270/290/420. He's why you play some of the internal guys. He gives you for the minimum salary, what we keep paying $3-5 million on the free agent market for worse production. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 If Sosa played on the 2020 or 21 teams he would have been better then any 2nd baseman they had would have added to the line up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: He's why you play some of the internal guys. He gives you for the minimum salary, what we keep paying $3-5 million on the free agent market for worse production. Not being able to find 1 WAR players whenever we've had the stars has been bugging this franchise the entire time I've been a fan. For a long time it was 3B. Now it's RF, granted at the moment we ain't anywhere close to having stars either. Edited May 22 by chitownsportsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) 5 hours ago, hogan873 said: Sosa has quietly been a pretty solid player, especially at the plate. His defense still leaves a bit to be desired, but he'll likely get better with regular exposure at 2B. The Sox have three of the four IF positions covered for a while. First base is still up in the air. Elko is better than Vaughn but neither are going to give you a decent BA. For the time being...pencil Vargas 3b, Meidroth SS, Sosa 2B, Elko 1B, and Vaughn DH. Elko is an athletic defender at 1B with a long reach, good arm and great hands. He stays if he hits home runs at a decent pace. Speaking of Elko someone I know thinks that, head on, he reminds them of Travis Kelce. Edited May 22 by tray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 29 minutes ago, tray said: For the time being...pencil Vargas 3b, Meidroth SS, Sosa 2B, Elko 1B, and Vaughn DH. Elko is an athletic defender at 1B with a long reach, good arm and great hands. He stays if he hits home runs at a decent pace. Speaking of Elko someone I know thinks that, head on, he reminds them of Travis Kelce. I did think that about Elko at 1B. Give your IF's a regular sized 1B to throw to haha Body type, I thought Pete Alonso. Turns out, they're the same height and close to same weight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 34 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I did think that about Elko at 1B. Give your IF's a regular sized 1B to throw to haha Body type, I thought Pete Alonso. Turns out, they're the same height and close to same weight. Keep Vaughn at 1B. Let him be the first to get injured in the field instead of Elko. 😈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 19 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Keep Vaughn at 1B. Let him be the first to get injured in the field instead of Elko. 😈 That seems to be the one ability Vaughn does have. Avail-ability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: That seems to be the one ability Vaughn does have. Avail-ability. Sox Machine does a deep dive on Vaughn: https://soxmachine.com/2025/05/andrew-vaughn-is-playing-more-than-ever-but-also-less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 27 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Sox Machine does a deep dive on Vaughn: https://soxmachine.com/2025/05/andrew-vaughn-is-playing-more-than-ever-but-also-less literal lol. only jim could waste 2k words to say the worst player in MLB should just be DFA. can you imagine going on a road trip with that guy? he'd talk himself in circles just deciding on what to eat for lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Stone commented yesterday that in prior years, pitching was the most sought after commodity in baseball, but now "power" is. I share that view with him. Yankees figured that out long ago, maybe a real long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 9 hours ago, hogan873 said: Sosa has quietly been a pretty solid player, especially at the plate. His defense still leaves a bit to be desired, but he'll likely get better with regular exposure at 2B. The Sox have three of the four IF positions covered for a while. First base is still up in the air. Elko is better than Vaughn but neither are going to give you a decent BA. If Elko isn't sent down he might be the White Sox HR leader in another 3 weeks . Vargas currently leads with 6. Elko in (what's it been , 2 weeks ?) has 3. Robert hasn't hit one since May 2nd or 1 HR in his last 63 PA covering his last 17 games. Elko's hit 3 HR in his last 29 PA covering his last 9 games and in 1 of those games he only had 1 PA. Vaughn has 3 HRs since April 20th covering 29 games and 115 PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 13 minutes ago, tray said: Stone commented yesterday that in prior years, pitching was the most sought after commodity in baseball, but now "power" is. I share that view with him. Yankees figured that out long ago, maybe a real long time ago. LH power in Yankee stadium is even better. Also figured that out a long time ago. The White Sox, never known for being a hitting or HR hitting franchise have had some of the worse, if not the worst, LH hitting as a franchise in baseball history. It might explain why they didn't win very much either along with cheap owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, tray said: Stone commented yesterday that in prior years, pitching was the most sought after commodity in baseball, but now "power" is. I share that view with him. Yankees figured that out long ago, maybe a real long time ago. That was KW to a tee from 2000-2012...power-based/high scoring games and much more "entertainment value" than what we've all witnessed from 2022-25. 2000-2001 2003-2006 2008 2010-12 in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 He does seem to have some kind of brain fart every other game it feels like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 On 5/22/2025 at 4:43 PM, chitownsportsfan said: literal lol. only jim could waste 2k words to say the worst player in MLB should just be DFA. can you imagine going on a road trip with that guy? he'd talk himself in circles just deciding on what to eat for lunch. Maybe Jim Margalus Is an alias for my wife. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) 2 homers today. If he can learn to take a few walks… .277 AVG / .298 OBP / .416 SLG / .714 OPS Edited June 25 by WhiteSox2023 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Sneaky ASG candidate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 (edited) In today's MLB you can go a long way hitting 25 HR and hitting 280 at 2B. I don't care how many walks you don't take. Edited June 25 by chitownsportsfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Sosa is fine for where they're at as a team. I don't need to see any more Rojas or Capra. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) On 5/22/2025 at 7:47 AM, hogan873 said: Sosa has quietly been a pretty solid player, especially at the plate. His defense still leaves a bit to be desired, but he'll likely get better with regular exposure at 2B. The Sox have three of the four IF positions covered for a while. First base is still up in the air. Elko is better than Vaughn but neither are going to give you a decent BA. That’s what needs to be done, keep guys at their best position instead of constantly playing musical chairs, do this for an extended period and see what happens. I’m still not sure where Vargas should be, probably at 3rd with maybe Teel at first with Quero and Lee doing the catching. Noda is at .095 BA and isn’t the answer at first base. I think that an infield of Vargas-Meidroth- Sosa-Teel going forward is promising. It’s the outfield that needs help. Edited June 26 by The Mighty Mite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I was interested to see Sosa mentioned in another thread as a surprise trade candidate. I, for one, have a feeling that he's a better long term option at 2B than Meidroth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 13 minutes ago, wegner said: I was interested to see Sosa mentioned in another thread as a surprise trade candidate. I, for one, have a feeling that he's a better long term option at 2B than Meidroth. With Colson looking like a potential bust, I’d rather see Meidroth continue to play SS with Sosa at 2B. Edited June 26 by WhiteSox2023 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: With Colson looking like a potential bust, I’d rather see Meidroth continue to play SS with Sosa at 2B. Sosa definitely does not need to be playing first base. As far as playing second, if he could cut down on his errors he could certainly be useful there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I am happy to see the progress Vargas is making and hoping the same for Sosa. The Sox need to be patient with Sosa to see what they can get out of him. Eduardo Escobar always comes to mind on a late bloomer that had decent success after hitting 25 years old. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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