Luis Robert trade thread: La Pantera stays.

[Lip Man 1]

6 hours ago, Sox guy said:

Can you name names.  That's heartbreaking to hear.  I always see Comiskey as a happy place, win or lose.  It's surprising to hear that players can get so bummed despite being part of such a legacy organisation.

Right off the top of my head from interviews that I've done were Wilbur Wood and Ed Herrmann.

Wood went so far as to say that in the late 60's the only games he really wanted to pitch in were games where he thought he could get a save. (He was a top relief pitcher at that point in his career.)

[kitekrazy]

On 7/16/2025 at 2:56 AM, Sox guy said:

Can you name names.  That's heartbreaking to hear.  I always see Comiskey as a happy place, win or lose.  It's surprising to hear that players can get so bummed despite being part of such a legacy organisation.

you spelled lousy wrong.  Legacy organizations are the Dodgers and Yankees.  More so the Yankees.  Interesting that many of their free agents seem to be productive. Sure they get a dude once in a while but I imagine any player would love to wear uniform and not for Halloween.

 The old Sox legacy started out by throwing a World Series.

[JoeC]

2 hours ago, kitekrazy said:

you spelled lousy wrong.  Legacy organizations are the Dodgers and Yankees.  More so the Yankees.  Interesting that many of their free agents seem to be productive. Sure they get a dude once in a while but I imagine any player would love to wear uniform and not for Halloween.

 The old Sox legacy started out by throwing a World Series.

Counterpoint: Clint Frazier
 

 

[Princess Dye]

just wake me when Dombrowski gets involved with some finality

[MEANS]

4 hours ago, JoeC said:

Counterpoint: Clint Frazier
 

 

I read that as he's referencing the Yankees, not a dude but a dud.

[JoeC]

5 hours ago, MEANS said:

I read that as he's referencing the Yankees, not a dude but a dud.

Same here, and that basically any player would prefer to play for the Yankees over the Sox.

[poppysox]

7 hours ago, JoeC said:

Same here, and that basically any player would prefer to play for the Yankees over the Sox.

Those players preferring the Yankees over the Sox had better make twice the salary.  Living in NY ain't for sissies.

[WestEddy]

Luis Robert Jr. was just taken out of the game, as was Nick Morabito, an outfield prospect for the Mets. pic.twitter.com/8Dd6KEdfqf

— Mike (@ChiSoxFanMike) July 19, 2025

 

 

Brooks Baldwin subbed out at AAA, too.

 

 

Edited July 19 by WestEddy

[GreenSox]

It's all kind of a shame because the team that could really use Robert is the White Sox.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

56 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

It's all kind of a shame because the team that could really use Robert is the White Sox.

Maybe next year when he's a free agent. He'd be a better upside play than guys like Tauchman, Slater or Taylor. 

[GreenSox]

32 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Maybe next year when he's a free agent. He'd be a better upside play than guys like Tauchman, Slater or Taylor. 

If he rakes the 2nd half, the tradee will likely pick up his option.

[Ozzie for Manager]

Reports are Ryan Clifford was also removed tonight from Mets AA game.  #6 and #15 for Mets.  Both outfielders.  

[WestEddy]

54 minutes ago, Ozzie for Manager said:

Reports are Ryan Clifford was also removed tonight from Mets AA game.  #6 and #15 for Mets.  Both outfielders.  

Looks like Clifford played 9. Made the last out in the top of the 9th, and no defensive replacement for the bottom of the inning reported. 

Gameday: Rumble Ponies 3, Fisher Cats 1 Final Score (07/18/2025)

[WhiteSox2023]

3 hours ago, GreenSox said:

It's all kind of a shame because the team that could really use Robert is the White Sox.

No, they can’t “really use” him.  The Sox are no where close to winning s%*# and Robert will be 35 by the time the Sox are competing.  He will probably be out of baseball before he ever hits 35 anyways.

Edited July 19 by WhiteSox2023

[GreenSox]

10 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

No, they can’t “really use” him.  The Sox are no where close to winning s%*# and Robert will be 35 by the time the Sox are competing.  He will probably be out of baseball before he ever hits 35 anyways.

Then this trade won't matter anyway because the prospects received will have flamed out long before then.

Rebuilds should take 3-4 years.  This one was a little deeper so perhaps   4-5; but really 3-4.  We should see real tangible progress on the field next year.  These things can turn quickly - pitching can help.  Sox may have more close-to-ready pitching than it appears. 

If Getz doesn't have this thing humming in a couple of years, then JR needs to move on from him.

Of course refusal to move on from non-performing  personnel has been the  real curse of JR all these years.

I hope they can get something interesting for him.  But teams aren't going to want to trade squat.   Just be leery of Rule 5 "prospects."

Edited July 19 by GreenSox

[Falstaff]

9 hours ago, WestEddy said:

Looks like Clifford played 9. Made the last out in the top of the 9th, and no defensive replacement for the bottom of the inning reported. 

Gameday: Rumble Ponies 3, Fisher Cats 1 Final Score (07/18/2025)

Taking a glance:

Clifford 21 yrs, 6'3", 200, throws left, bats left, has played 1st base and outfield, HR power.

Nick Morabito 22yrs, 5'10' 185, throws right, bats right, outfield 

[Bob Sacamano]

If they pulled him for a trade, I would think he would have actually been traded. Looks more like a case of the team was up a lot and gave him a few innings off.

[Chicago White Sox]

Getz needs to find a way to get one interesting prospect out of Robert.  Eat money, package him with other pieces, get fucking creative.  Ideally we come away with an OF prospect who isn’t too far off, even if they come with some question marks.

I can’t stress enough the value of the playing time we will have down the stretch and into next year.  Basically zero major league ready OFs outside of Baldwin if that’s where we plan to play him.  Look at a guy like Stowers who had a ton of question marks and would never have gotten a shot with the Orioles.  He’s now an All-Star and even if his performance drops off some as the league adjusts to him, it seems likely the Marlins have an everyday player.  We can afford to take guys like that or even post hype guys (say Jordan Walker on the Cardinals) and give them an extended runway to prove themselves.

[SoCalChiSox]

20 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Getz needs to find a way to get one interesting prospect out of Robert.  Eat money, package him with other pieces, get fucking creative.  Ideally we come away with an OF prospect who isn’t too far off, even if they come with some question marks.

I can’t stress enough the value of the playing time we will have down the stretch and into next year.  Basically zero major league ready OFs outside of Baldwin if that’s where we plan to play him.  Look at a guy like Stowers who had a ton of question marks and would never have gotten a shot with the Orioles.  He’s now an All-Star and even if his performance drops off some as the league adjusts to him, it seems likely the Marlins have an everyday player.  We can afford to take guys like that or even post hype guys (say Jordan Walker on the Cardinals) and give them an extended runway to prove themselves.

He needs to have a really good 2 weeks, send him to PHI with a good reliever and maybe something else (and cash retained) and try to get Crawford.

[The Mighty Mite]

On 7/16/2025 at 12:38 PM, Lip Man 1 said:

Right off the top of my head from interviews that I've done were Wilbur Wood and Ed Herrmann.

Wood went so far as to say that in the late 60's the only games he really wanted to pitch in were games where he thought he could get a save. (He was a top relief pitcher at that point in his career.)

At the time those late 60s seasons were abominable for Sox fans but compared to what we’ve seen the last 3 seasons they weren’t all that bad. 

[The Mighty Mite]

13 hours ago, GreenSox said:

It's all kind of a shame because the team that could really use Robert is the White Sox.

I agree, for me the best case scenario would be for Robert somehow becoming the 5 tool player he should be and wind up patrolling centerfield for the next 5 years and of course staying healthy. I know the odds are that this isn’t going to happen but one can always dream especially after what we saw last night from.Robert.

[Bob Sacamano]

9 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

I agree, for me the best case scenario would be for Robert somehow becoming the 5 tool player he should be and wind up patrolling centerfield for the next 5 years and of course staying healthy. I know the odds are that this isn’t going to happen but one can always dream especially after what we saw last night from.Robert.

Boras client so likely wouldn’t be here 5 years, if he was even good the next 2.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

16 hours ago, GreenSox said:

If he rakes the 2nd half, the tradee will likely pick up his option.

2 things have to happen , he hits and they pick up the $20M option. I'm guessing he'd have to hit pretty good to pick up the option. Don't think it'll happen but if JR or Ihbias don't put up any money even a $6M-$10M 1 yr contract might be out of the Sox range too. 

Edited July 19 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

7 hours ago, GreenSox said:

Then this trade won't matter anyway because the prospects received will have flamed out long before then.

Rebuilds should take 3-4 years.  This one was a little deeper so perhaps   4-5; but really 3-4.  We should see real tangible progress on the field next year.  These things can turn quickly - pitching can help.  Sox may have more close-to-ready pitching than it appears. 

If Getz doesn't have this thing humming in a couple of years, then JR needs to move on from him.

Of course refusal to move on from non-performing  personnel has been the  real curse of JR all these years.

I hope they can get something interesting for him.  But teams aren't going to want to trade squat.   Just be leery of Rule 5 "prospects."

That guy thought the Sox could use Alexander Canario but not Robert. I'd rather take my chances on a guy who actually accomplished something  with 5 tools CF and 28 yrs old than a 25 yr. old  guy who hasn't done anything with less tools. However when rebuilding you don't preclude anyone with upside and either one would fit that bill for trade purposes.

The point of actually signing Robert again wouldn't necessarily be to keep him but to trade him again. 

Lots of people think the Sox should sign higher quality free agents to get better returns at the TDL. 

Of course that just gives guys like that more reasons to say Getz can't judge talent and is wasting money when slightly more expensive free agents fail, which is almost as likely as the cheap pickups failing. You can be sure he'll be there to rain on your parade and convince you to give up hope . 

There's still work to be done . Stay positive. You won't see him telling you that there were rumors that 40 analytical people were hired . I heard that on a recent Future Sox podcast . Can't remember if it was Hot Takes and Heaters or the show with Elijah Evans & Dylan Barnas MLB Draft Recap and Analysis. But it was a very recent podcast , not more than a day or 2 old.

Podcasts are a whole other world than here where the outlooks are generally more optimistically forward looking. Not necessarily Merkin style but Elijah Evans in particular knows his stuff and he, like James Fox, are often interviewed for other podcasts like CHGO White Sox, Locked On White Sox, Sox in the Basement , and Sox Machine with James Fegan all who aren't just doom and gloom but present a more balanced outlook . 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

On 7/17/2025 at 9:04 PM, JoeC said:

Same here, and that basically any player would prefer to play for the Yankees over the Sox.

Luckily for most players  winning teams vs losing teams is not the only thing taken into consideration. For the biggest and brightest names sure  but the majority of free agents don't have that luxury . Things are never really that simple .