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14 minutes ago, fathom said:

If Sox aren’t willing to pick up salary, then nothing special.  I’m not expecting any prospects the Sox receive at the deadline to sniff their top 10 after acquisition.

Rosenthal has claimed the Sox are willing to eat money to enhance a Robert return.

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14 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

Pay down Robert a bit and give me Carson Benge please.

Throw in Taylor if you need to. Lord knows the Sox don't need a closer for a few years.

You see Spencer Jones in AAA?  Can we get that Cease trade back

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20 minutes ago, fathom said:

If Sox aren’t willing to pick up salary, then nothing special.  I’m not expecting any prospects the Sox receive at the deadline to sniff their top 10 after acquisition.

I thought there have been multiple reports that the Sox would be willing to eat money on Robert and Benny. 

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13 minutes ago, fathom said:

I think any of the guys mentioned will take more than him.

True, but Maruicio is the only one I would be interested in. The other two would give me Vargas trade vibes.

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7 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Robert with a 120 wRC+ over his last 100 PAs with an ISO at his career average and a BABIP just below his historical norms.

Good. Now, before he hits another historical norm, trade him before he gets hurt!

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Imagine if Robert played all season like he has been playing recently.  There'd be teams blowing up Getz's phone daily.  Regardless, this stretch is likely increasing his value a bit.

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13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I have to imagine Aaron Vaughn is actually doing more for Luis Robert's trade value than anyone outside of Luis Robert right now.

I have to ask about Aaron Vaughn... I can only imagine it's Andrew Vaughn's newly adopted persona, channeling his inner Hank Aaron while slugging it out in Milwaukee.

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10 minutes ago, JoeC said:

I have to ask about Aaron Vaughn... I can only imagine it's Andrew Vaughn's newly adopted persona, channeling his inner Hank Aaron while slugging it out in Milwaukee.

It's probably a sugar high TBH, but if you get another GM thinking that the Sox are toxic and their team would offer a way better environment with a new start, that could help finish a deal.

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9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

It's probably a sugar high TBH, but if you get another GM thinking that the Sox are toxic and their team would offer a way better environment with a new start, that could help finish a deal.

I was commenting on the re-naming of Andrew Vaughn to Aaron Vaughn.

...but yes, I do sort of agree that Vaughn is helping Robert's trade value.

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15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

It's probably a sugar high TBH, but if you get another GM thinking that the Sox are toxic and their team would offer a way better environment with a new start, that could help finish a deal.

I don't think it's a thought, I think it's a given at this point. Not that Robert is suddenly going to be a .400 hitter with any club he goes to, but that talented players are not in a good situation with the White Sox and that classic "change of scenery" cliche holds a lot of water here. 

There is just too much evidence at this point to really believe otherwise. Especially as it relates to players that are still here that played under Grifol. I think A LOT of damage was done during the 2022-2024 seasons with players attitudes and culture. As we have discussed before, I don't care if you're playing professional baseball or an accountant..people go to work everyday and company culture plays a huge role for a majority of people. You come in wide-eyed and want to do your absolute best, but when everyone around you isn't putting in the effort, management doesn't give you the proper tools to succeed and your boss seems in way over his head...people check out. 

And it works the other way too. I don't think Andrew Vaughn is suddenly the best hitter in baseball, but you spend 5 years in a circus, then get traded 90 miles up the road to a team that has a strong foundation, players with experience winning and are in the middle of a playoff race, you adapt to that culture as well. You know you have to bring your A game every day, because being lazy or giving minimal effort isn't going to cut it here, like it did at your other place. And I'm all for personal responsibility, it's on the player to bring that level wherever they play...but we've seen in all walks of life, that always isn't the case. 

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37 minutes ago, Tony said:

I don't think it's a thought, I think it's a given at this point. Not that Robert is suddenly going to be a .400 hitter with any club he goes to, but that talented players are not in a good situation with the White Sox and that classic "change of scenery" cliche holds a lot of water here. 

There is just too much evidence at this point to really believe otherwise. Especially as it relates to players that are still here that played under Grifol. I think A LOT of damage was done during the 2022-2024 seasons with players attitudes and culture. As we have discussed before, I don't care if you're playing professional baseball or an accountant..people go to work everyday and company culture plays a huge role for a majority of people. You come in wide-eyed and want to do your absolute best, but when everyone around you isn't putting in the effort, management doesn't give you the proper tools to succeed and your boss seems in way over his head...people check out. 

And it works the other way too. I don't think Andrew Vaughn is suddenly the best hitter in baseball, but you spend 5 years in a circus, then get traded 90 miles up the road to a team that has a strong foundation, players with experience winning and are in the middle of a playoff race, you adapt to that culture as well. You know you have to bring your A game every day, because being lazy or giving minimal effort isn't going to cut it here, like it did at your other place. And I'm all for personal responsibility, it's on the player to bring that level wherever they play...but we've seen in all walks of life, that always isn't the case. 

Well said.

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40 minutes ago, Tony said:

I don't think it's a thought, I think it's a given at this point. Not that Robert is suddenly going to be a .400 hitter with any club he goes to, but that talented players are not in a good situation with the White Sox and that classic "change of scenery" cliche holds a lot of water here. 

There is just too much evidence at this point to really believe otherwise. Especially as it relates to players that are still here that played under Grifol. I think A LOT of damage was done during the 2022-2024 seasons with players attitudes and culture. As we have discussed before, I don't care if you're playing professional baseball or an accountant..people go to work everyday and company culture plays a huge role for a majority of people. You come in wide-eyed and want to do your absolute best, but when everyone around you isn't putting in the effort, management doesn't give you the proper tools to succeed and your boss seems in way over his head...people check out. 

And it works the other way too. I don't think Andrew Vaughn is suddenly the best hitter in baseball, but you spend 5 years in a circus, then get traded 90 miles up the road to a team that has a strong foundation, players with experience winning and are in the middle of a playoff race, you adapt to that culture as well. You know you have to bring your A game every day, because being lazy or giving minimal effort isn't going to cut it here, like it did at your other place. And I'm all for personal responsibility, it's on the player to bring that level wherever they play...but we've seen in all walks of life, that always isn't the case. 

Spot on.  I think with Vaughn and then Robert they will be a cog in the machine.  In Chicago they were spinning wheels.

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